Project end marker question

I wanna do this half hour long synth drone and the project marker wont move past minute 12:55 or so.It just keeps snapping back into that same position.

I wanna move it farther right so I can stretch the MIDI region all the way to minute 30 but it's not happening. Why?

Also is there any way to see the values where the markers are set in the main top display? Like it was stock in Logic 9.

thank you

Adam

Yes, you can customise the display to include the project end information - click the down arrow and pick "Customise display" and add the items you need.

I just dragged my end marker in my default template to 46 mins (randomly) without problems so I'm not sure what's happening there.

Which one?

I even dragged the MIDI region past the point where the marker is on minute 13 and the marker wont budge.

This is what it looks like

OK found it. I put in lets say 30000 and it just switches back to where minute 13 is.

I am sorry but this is ridiculous

I even recorded some audio and dragged it past the end point

OK found it. I put in lets say 30000 and it just switches back to where minute 13 is.

I am sorry but this is ridiculous

Did you see my question?

Yes, you can customise the display to include the project end information

Which one?

The one that says "Key Signature / Project End" will add the project end information into the display.

OK found it. I put in lets say 30000 and it just switches back to where minute 13 is.

I am sorry but this is ridiculous

Did you see my question?

60bpm

This is what it looks like

Isn't that 12 *hours* and 30 minutes, not 12 minutes?

Bar 10000 at 60bpm will last a while...

I am sorry but this is ridiculous

It is, but not for the reasons you think!

By the way your project is 12 hours long.

Crap!! How is this possible?

What am I missing? What am I reading wrong in the time ruler?

I am sorry but this is ridiculous

 

It is, but not for the reasons you think!

Hahahahaha so true. Jeezz and to think I recorded and produced several critically acclaimed albums in Logic ahahahahaha

No one would believe me

Crap!! How is this possible?

Maybe you fell asleep during the bass solo!

What am I missing? What am I reading wrong in the time ruler?

The first number is hours, then it goes down from there...

What am I missing? What am I reading wrong in the time ruler?

The first number you're seeing is hours.

That's one LOOOOOONG synth drone.

Hahahahaha so true. Jeezz and to think I recorded and produced several critically acclaimed albums in Logic ahahahahaha

No one would believe me

I believe you. One has nothing to do with the other. You most likely have talents I don't have and I have talents you don't, same goes for des99 obviously.

Hahahaha. You people are great. Thank you. But why not 0 for the first number and once you reach an hour ...then 1

??

No worries

Note - there's two digits for hours (otherwise you won't be able to go past hour 9!).

And there's a whole 59 minutes and change before you get to hour 1...

So an event at 3 minutes in would be: 00:03:00:00:00, and an hour and 3 minutes is 01:03:00:00:00.

It's been like this for at least 40+ years, so it's a system that works...

Guess this is confusing me. The 01in the display and the 1 on the ruler.

Why not just have 00:00:00 for the start position and then have 01:00:00 for the 1hr mark?

That *is* the 1 hour mark.

It's a convention to start projects at the 1 hour mark. This comes from the SMPTE code from video, when machines of old weren't happy when flipping from 23:23:59 to 00:00:00 (are we moving forwards, or have we gone backwards? Some machines would behave unpredictably in this case). Starting an hour in avoids this, and gives some flexibility to move earlier in time without crossing that boundary.

Of course, if you're writing cues for film/tv, you're probably going to be starting at the time of the cue, so this will change, but in general, starting at one hour is a good standard convetion typically used and you won't go wrong doing it - which is why Logic defaults to those (which you can of course change in your own templates/projects if necessary).

In Logic's sync prefs you tell Logic which SMPTE position bar 1 starts at, so by default, bar 1 starts at 1 hour in SMPTE terms.

If you want to set your templates to start with bar 1 = 00:00:00 (or use an alternative time for display only), you are free to do so.

Guess this is confusing me. The 01in the display and the 1 on the ruler.

Why not just have 00:00:00 for the start position and then have 01:00:00 for the 1hr mark?

It's a standard with SMPTE, which comes from the time of mechanical movie reel players, which didn't handle negative players. Therefore all movies always started at 1 hour so that you could handle pre-roll for credits etc... between hour 0 and hour 1. You can enable the SMPTE offset in your sync project settings to see 0:00:00 as the 1 hour SMPTE time.

Is that under preferences? tnx

Not preferences but project settings:

1. Choose File > Project Settings > Synchronization and select "Enable Separate SMPTE View Offset".

2. In the Control bar, control-click the SMPTE reading and choose Use SMPTE View Offset.