bebenavole Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I wanna do this half hour long synth drone and the project marker wont move past minute 12:55 or so.It just keeps snapping back into that same position. I wanna move it farther right so I can stretch the MIDI region all the way to minute 30 but it's not happening. Why? Also is there any way to see the values where the markers are set in the main top display? Like it was stock in Logic 9. thank you Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Yes, you can customise the display to include the project end information - click the down arrow and pick "Customise display" and add the items you need. I just dragged my end marker in my default template to 46 mins (randomly) without problems so I'm not sure what's happening there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebenavole Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 Which one? I even dragged the MIDI region past the point where the marker is on minute 13 and the marker wont budge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebenavole Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 This is what it looks like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 What is your project tempo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebenavole Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 OK found it. I put in lets say 30000 and it just switches back to where minute 13 is. I am sorry but this is ridiculous I even recorded some audio and dragged it past the end point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 OK found it. I put in lets say 30000 and it just switches back to where minute 13 is.I am sorry but this is ridiculous Did you see my question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Yes, you can customise the display to include the project end information Which one? The one that says "Key Signature / Project End" will add the project end information into the display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 By the way your project is 12 hours long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebenavole Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 OK found it. I put in lets say 30000 and it just switches back to where minute 13 is.I am sorry but this is ridiculous Did you see my question? 60bpm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 (edited) This is what it looks like Isn't that 12 *hours* and 30 minutes, not 12 minutes? Bar 10000 at 60bpm will last a while... I am sorry but this is ridiculous It is, but not for the reasons you think! Edited November 15, 2020 by des99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 We're cross posting. So your project is 12 hours long. If you need more, you need a slower tempo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebenavole Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 By the way your project is 12 hours long. Crap!! How is this possible? What am I missing? What am I reading wrong in the time ruler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebenavole Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 I am sorry but this is ridiculous It is, but not for the reasons you think! Hahahahaha so true. Jeezz and to think I recorded and produced several critically acclaimed albums in Logic ahahahahaha No one would believe me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Crap!! How is this possible? Maybe you fell asleep during the bass solo! What am I missing? What am I reading wrong in the time ruler? The first number is hours, then it goes down from there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 What am I missing? What am I reading wrong in the time ruler? The first number you're seeing is hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 That's one LOOOOOONG synth drone. Hahahahaha so true. Jeezz and to think I recorded and produced several critically acclaimed albums in Logic ahahahahahaNo one would believe me I believe you. One has nothing to do with the other. You most likely have talents I don't have and I have talents you don't, same goes for des99 obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebenavole Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 Hahahaha. You people are great. Thank you. But why not 0 for the first number and once you reach an hour ...then 1 ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 No worries Note - there's two digits for hours (otherwise you won't be able to go past hour 9!). And there's a whole 59 minutes and change before you get to hour 1... So an event at 3 minutes in would be: 00:03:00:00:00, and an hour and 3 minutes is 01:03:00:00:00. It's been like this for at least 40+ years, so it's a system that works... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebenavole Posted November 15, 2020 Author Share Posted November 15, 2020 Guess this is confusing me. The 01in the display and the 1 on the ruler. Why not just have 00:00:00 for the start position and then have 01:00:00 for the 1hr mark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 That *is* the 1 hour mark. It's a convention to start projects at the 1 hour mark. This comes from the SMPTE code from video, when machines of old weren't happy when flipping from 23:23:59 to 00:00:00 (are we moving forwards, or have we gone backwards? Some machines would behave unpredictably in this case). Starting an hour in avoids this, and gives some flexibility to move earlier in time without crossing that boundary. Of course, if you're writing cues for film/tv, you're probably going to be starting at the time of the cue, so this will change, but in general, starting at one hour is a good standard convetion typically used and you won't go wrong doing it - which is why Logic defaults to those (which you can of course change in your own templates/projects if necessary). In Logic's sync prefs you tell Logic which SMPTE position bar 1 starts at, so by default, bar 1 starts at 1 hour in SMPTE terms. If you want to set your templates to start with bar 1 = 00:00:00 (or use an alternative time for display only), you are free to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Guess this is confusing me. The 01in the display and the 1 on the ruler. Why not just have 00:00:00 for the start position and then have 01:00:00 for the 1hr mark? It's a standard with SMPTE, which comes from the time of mechanical movie reel players, which didn't handle negative players. Therefore all movies always started at 1 hour so that you could handle pre-roll for credits etc... between hour 0 and hour 1. You can enable the SMPTE offset in your sync project settings to see 0:00:00 as the 1 hour SMPTE time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebenavole Posted November 16, 2020 Author Share Posted November 16, 2020 Is that under preferences? tnx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Project Settings -> Synchronisation -> General Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Is that under preferences? tnx Not preferences but project settings: 1. Choose File > Project Settings > Synchronization and select "Enable Separate SMPTE View Offset". 2. In the Control bar, control-click the SMPTE reading and choose Use SMPTE View Offset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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