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Big Sur update

Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:09 am

Hi there,
I run an iMac 2019 with Catalina 10.15.4 and Logic Pro 10.5.0
First: is it recommended to upgrade to Big Sur now??
And if I decide to upgrade, should I UPGRADE Logic to 10.6.1 FIRST?...or upgrade my system to Big Sur FIRST???

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Re: Big Sur update

Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:32 am

it depends entirely on what software you are running, including your plugins. Check with all your manufacturers to make sure they are ready for BigSur. Some are not. You don't need Big Sur in order to run LogicPro 10.6, Catalina works fine for now.
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Re: Big Sur update

Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:55 pm

I would update Logic first.
Make sure to make a copy of the Logic app before you click update.
Right-click the app in the Applications folder and choose Make copy.
This way you can still have an older version if 10.6 gives you issues.
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Re: Big Sur update

Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:03 am

Anyone here updated an Intel Mac to Big Sur and have since concluded that they liked Catalina better?
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Re: Big Sur update

Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:09 am

Ashermusic wrote:
Anyone here updated an Intel Mac to Big Sur and have since concluded that they liked Catalina better?

Not me, I like Big Sur better.
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Re: Big Sur update

Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:42 pm

not me either, i also prefer big sur...
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Re: Big Sur update

Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:09 pm

They just updated Big Sur to 11.2.3
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Re: Big Sur update

Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:17 pm

Ashermusic wrote:
Anyone here updated an Intel Mac to Big Sur and have since concluded that they liked Catalina better?


Make sure you check with vsl, I believe they are still saying they are not ready for Big Sur yet.
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Re: Big Sur update

Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:22 am

What is 'better' in Big Sur for a DAW user?
 
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Re: Big Sur update

Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:25 am

zip wrote:
What is 'better' in Big Sur for a DAW user?

In my case it's nothing specific, it's more like having a new coat of fresh paint on the studio walls and tidy up the place a bit. I do like the new iOS style notifications, banners, alerts etc. Much more intuitive to handle than earlier it seems.
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Re: Big Sur update

Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:51 am

altho there have been bumps in the road (on the OS betas; nothing new with that), big sur is fast, stable here. logic works, opens fast, runs without issue. the OS just feels solid, unobtrusive... which is what i want from an OS. your mileage may vary...
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Re: Big Sur update

Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:52 am

Thanks, David.
I am still on Mojave and will be until I am forced to upgrade. Wondering if I should skip Catalina altogether.
I will wait until at least version .4 of Big Sur. Over the years I have noticed that .4 means the kinks are ironed out.(and then the whole thing starts over again...).
Leaving the 32-bit world means $1200 to replace obsolete hardware, so I am not in a hurry.
I liked the shiny pill style(fake 3D) of MacOS best.
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Re: Big Sur update

Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:56 am

@fisherking: most of my DAW work is done outside Logic, Other DAW's etc are much less compatible with Big Sur.
 
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Re: Big Sur update

Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:18 am

I have a feeling I have a little less cpu headroom in Logic in Big Sur. Like single core performance has taken a bit of a hit?
 
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Re: Big Sur update

Tue Mar 09, 2021 5:50 am

zip wrote:
Thanks, David.
I am still on Mojave and will be until I am forced to upgrade. Wondering if I should skip Catalina altogether.
I will wait until at least version .4 of Big Sur. Over the years I have noticed that .4 means the kinks are ironed out.(and then the whole thing starts over again...).
Leaving the 32-bit world means $1200 to replace obsolete hardware, so I am not in a hurry.
I liked the shiny pill style(fake 3D) of MacOS best.


what hardware? the mac itself? (just curious of what you're referring to)...

i've never seen any black & white proof of that (the 'version 4' myth). every version of every OS (beta, or final), has bug fixes, tweaks, and sometimes new bugs. all OSes, at any moment, are a work-in-progress. so you dive in if & when the time is right, and move forward. the kinks are always being ironed out.

still, no harm in waiting (and if '.4' is your moment, then '4' it is).
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Re: Big Sur update

Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:07 am

Metric Halo ULN-8/Metric Halo ULN-2/Color Munki Smile screen calibration tool.
In my experience as a tech support person for pro audio, I can tell you that the amount of MacOS support calls sharply declines after .4 becomes available. For about 2 months everybody is happy, then the next MacOS version is introduced. People will naively install this, buy a new Mac that can't be downgraded, find out firewire or what have you is no longer supported, rinse & repeat.
 
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Re: Big Sur update

Tue Mar 09, 2021 7:32 am

Dewdman42 wrote:
Ashermusic wrote:
Anyone here updated an Intel Mac to Big Sur and have since concluded that they liked Catalina better?


Make sure you check with vsl, I believe they are still saying they are not ready for Big Sur yet.


Nope, Paul Kopf said, "Our software works fine on Big Sur. "
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Re: Big Sur update

Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:09 am

I could have sworn I just read a post a week or two ago from him saying wait on Big Sur! Well that is actually good news then...!!!

Based on the following list, I'm still waiting for a bit though: https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/ar ... ity-guide/

I suspect that a lot of the stuff on that list says "limited" because of M1 more so then BigSur, but not entirely sure. I would have to do a deep investigation of many pieces of software in order to find out. I might setup a second partition and try installing BigSur as an experiment soon.
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Re: Big Sur update

Sat May 15, 2021 4:07 am

Hey everybody,

I administer production Macs for a Logic-based live show that I am not at liberty to upgrade, so I need to keep a copy of 10.4.8 running on my Mac to prepare files for the show (alongside 10.6.2 for my other productions).

Has anyone tried running 10.4.8 under Big Sur?

I’d appreciate any feedback!
 
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Re: Big Sur update

Sat May 15, 2021 4:39 am

analogika wrote:
Has anyone tried running 10.4.8 under Big Sur?

I’d appreciate any feedback!

I don't use 10.4.8 for extended lengths of time on a regular basis, but I open it once in a while in Big Sur here and it runs fine, no problem.

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