ralphonz Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Hi folks, Is there a way to move both sides of the stereo pan control at the same time? So that when you pan in one side the other side moves in by the same amount and the thing stays centred.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution David Nahmani Posted March 9, 2021 Solution Share Posted March 9, 2021 I find the Stereo Panner to be quite finicky. Still knowing what to drag helps yielding the desired results... most of the time. 1. To move the full stereo image left or right, drag the number that appears in the center of the panner up or down. 2. To narrow or widen the stereo image, drag the green ring up or down. 3. To swap left and right, Command-click the panner (the green ring becomes orange when L and R are swapped). 4. Drag the white L and R squares to move only that side of the stereo panner (this works only under certain conditions). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphonz Posted March 9, 2021 Author Share Posted March 9, 2021 Yes it's a bit annoying to say the least - Ah ha, I need to drag the green ring! Solved. This was much easier with a control surface, can't wait for my UF8 to arrive. Why they didn't just make it two pan pots with a link option like protools I'll never know! Thanks again David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Probably because it made more sense to expand on the GUI that was already there for the old Balance knob rather than design a brand new GUI. But I do agree that it needs improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 To narrow or widen the stereo image, drag the green ring up or down. Been looking for this for a while. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Been looking for this for a while. Thanks! You're welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinloops Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 One advantage of logic’s stereo pan over two individual is that you can grab it in the middle and move the whole thing. This essentially works like a third (overall) pan knob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 One advantage of logic’s stereo pan over two individual is that you can grab it in the middle and move the whole thing. This essentially works like a third (overall) pan knob. Yes indeed, plus the capability of narrowing or spreading the stereo field while keeping the general direction, or swapping the left and side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytucats Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Is there a way to quantify what's happening with the green stereo pan spread? The pan readout tells you where the center is but I haven't figured out how to know the width…where left and right are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinloops Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 The edge of the green handle is where that side is panned to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralphonz Posted April 5, 2021 Author Share Posted April 5, 2021 The edge of the green handle is where that side is panned to. This There are little white handles on either end which essentially represent left and right. Once you figure out that you can drag and move the green line itself, this GUI is actually pretty nice as others have said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytucats Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 The edge of the green handle is where that side is panned to. The question re-worded: What is the pan value of the edge of the green arc? Working from the other direction…let's say I have a stereo piano and I want it in the center ("0") but I'd like the width of the piano to be specifically between -30 and +30. How do I achieve that exact scenario using the stereo pan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinloops Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 You want to know how to determine the numerical value of the position of the panned sides? I don’t have an answer to that specifically as I never found a need for it because I mostly just use my ears. But you can use automation to see the value of parameters. Also maybe visible in the event list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 let's say I have a stereo piano and I want it in the center ("0") but I'd like the width of the piano to be specifically between -30 and +30. How do I achieve that exact scenario using the stereo pan? Do it by ear. Reset the Stereo Pan (Option-click it) then drag the green ring upward to narrow the spread until it sounds how you want it. There's no numerical relationship between the position of the white squares on a Stereo Pan and the position of a Mono Pan or Balance control. The Stereo Pan position is determined by a Pan value (that determines where the center of the Stereo Pan is panned) and a Pan Spread value (that determines how far apart L and R are). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytucats Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Well, I have been using my ears. I can put it in one position and listen. Then, I can put it in another position and listen to that. Wait, I liked the first one better. Too bad! I don't know quantitatively where it was. Answer: use a plugin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 Well, I have been using my ears. I can put it in one position and listen. Then, I can put it in another position and listen to that. Wait, I liked the first one better. Too bad! I don't know quantitatively where it was. Answer: use a plugin. If what you want is a numeric reference for the position of the Stereo Pan (and don't mind that there's no relationship with Mono Pan positions), then you can go to Automation View, click the Automation parameter pop-up menu, choose Main > Pan Spread adjust Trim field: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 the only way i've found to do a gradual swapping of sides is to do the orange ring, pan to center. then do another pass, and, at the desired mid-point, command-click again (bringing me back to the green ring). then i have to manually draw in a 'cleaner' arc. it seems the mid-point of each line is where the swap happens (but there's nothing in the automation windows to show this). anyway, would love to have a way to do it with less steps (altho it's not that big a deal, i don't do it often). so...... is there an easier way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinloops Posted April 5, 2021 Share Posted April 5, 2021 If you include mixer steps in undo history you can set it then make the changes to set it somewhere else. Now use control Z to go back to the previous setting. If you want to go back and forth use undo/redo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnytucats Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 Good suggestions from all. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted April 6, 2021 Share Posted April 6, 2021 You're welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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