retep Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I´ve been working with Logic for many years. Logic Pro has some features which I'm not comfortable with. All of a sudden when I want to merge (join) 2 midi tracks Logic Pro creates a folder. When I ask it to unpack this folder nothing happens. I don´t want a folder just a continuous midi track. Is there some sort of preference setting where I can bypass this and return to normal operation? Here´s a video of Logic Pro creating a folder even though the track is empty: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Your video is set to private, we can't see it? How do you join your MIDI regions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted May 14, 2021 Author Share Posted May 14, 2021 Sorry. The video is public now. When joining midi regions I use the key "command & J" (join). It´s worked fine for a long time now. The video isn´t good. I have a midi region (bass) that just became a folder all by itself. When I want to unpack it it disappears leaving no data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Ok. I don't understand your video though? I don't see a joining operation resulting in a folder, I see no regions, then you click and I see a folder (at the beginning), then I see regions being created? I'm confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted May 14, 2021 Author Share Posted May 14, 2021 As I said the video isn´t good. When I click on an empty track sometimes it creates a folder. Why does it do that if there´s no midi data? Also when joining 2 regions it should create a continuous midi region, not a folder which can´t be unpacked. Don´t you agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted May 14, 2021 Author Share Posted May 14, 2021 After struggling with it I think it has something to do with "overlapping" regions. At least Logic thinks they are. Everything is quantised and I can´t see any overlapping. Is there a function to highlight overlapping regions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 As I said the video isn´t good. When I click on an empty track sometimes it creates a folder. Why does it do that if there´s no midi data? Whether there is MIDI data or not shouldn't matter: clicking on a track, empty or not, should never create a folder. Does this happen in a new empty project you're starting? In all your projects? Only in one specific project? Have you always noticed that? Also when joining 2 regions it should create a continuous midi region, not a folder which can´t be unpacked. Don´t you agree? I completely agree, and it works as expected here, so your situation there too asks for more troubleshooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 After struggling with it I think it has something to do with "overlapping" regions. Why do you think that? At least Logic thinks they are. This kinds of statements based on what you think are a challenge for others to decipher. It's easier for us to understand what you're experiencing if you tell us: 1. What operation you're doing? 2. What result you're seeing? Everything is quantised and I can´t see any overlapping. Is there a function to highlight overlapping regions? Yes there is: select all the regions on the track (choose Track > Other > New Track for Overlapped Regions). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleamon Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Ok. I don't understand your video though? I don't see a joining operation resulting in a folder, I see no regions, then you click and I see a folder (at the beginning), then I see regions being created? I'm confused. I can see in the video that the first region he creates has a folder icon in it. Not sure what that means, or how he created it. Beyond that I don't know what his problem is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Yes, same here, I see clicking with a pointer tool, first a folder is created (first track), then regular MIDI regions are created (2nd and 3rd tracks), neither of which should happen when clicking with the Pointer tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleamon Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Yes, same here, I see clicking with a pointer tool, first a folder is created (first track), then regular MIDI regions are created (2nd and 3rd tracks), neither of which should happen when clicking with the Pointer tool. Mmm. So it's not a track folder, not a take folder (or doesn't look like mine anyway), but a region folder? How do you intentionally create a region folder? I've never seen that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 The only way I know of is to choose Functions > Folder > Pack Folder or use the equivalent key command. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleamon Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 The only way I know of is to choose Functions > Folder > Pack Folder or use the equivalent key command. But that still doesn't put a folder icon on the region header. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 The only way I know of is to choose Functions > Folder > Pack Folder or use the equivalent key command. But that still doesn't put a folder icon on the region header. It does if you create an empty folder or a folder with regions contained on a single track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleamon Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 But that still doesn't put a folder icon on the region header. It does if you create an empty folder or a folder with regions contained on a single track. folder.gif Ah, I see. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution retep Posted May 15, 2021 Author Solution Share Posted May 15, 2021 Dear all, I think I have found the solution to the problem. Today I was in my studio to work on the Logic song. I opened the file and there were no more unwanted folders. I realised that it was a system incompatibility issue. At home I run Logic 10.5.1 but in my studio I run Logic 10.3.3. (because I use an old Mac Pro) Logic always warns when I open a song that wasn´t created using the same version but so far there were no problems. Until now. Thanks for all your input and sorry for having wasted your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 15, 2021 Share Posted May 15, 2021 Dear all,I think I have found the solution to the problem. Today I was in my studio to work on the Logic song. I opened the file and there were no more unwanted folders. I realised that it was a system incompatibility issue. At home I run Logic 10.5.1 but in my studio I run Logic 10.3.3. (because I use an old Mac Pro) Logic always warns when I open a song that wasn´t created using the same version but so far there were no problems. Until now. Thanks for all your input and sorry for having wasted your time. Oh ok now that makes sense! Thanks for letting us know what it was! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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