12bitcrunch Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 I have a bunch to add for the native list: Acon Digital Verberate2 Audec JonV Audio Leapwing Lennar Digital Lynx Studio (Drivers, Aurora etc) Tone Projects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValliSoftware Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 I have a bunch to add for the native list: Lennar Digital Where did you see that Sylenth1 runs Native. Native means a universal app, Sylenth1 is still Intel only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 I have a bunch to add for the native list: Acon Digital Verberate2 Audec JonV Audio Leapwing Lennar Digital Lynx Studio (Drivers, Aurora etc) Tone Projects Thank you for suggesting those, however I would need to see links to official documentation from the manufacturers stating that they are truly native? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12bitcrunch Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Sorry may have been too hasty https://acondigital.com/news/verberate-2-2/ https://jonvaudio.com/fircomp2/ https://www.toneprojects.com/kelvin-tone-shaper.html not Unisum All the rest are actually just supported... my bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Unfortunately, the Roland Sound Cloud Manager is still Intel based and it requires Rosetta 2 to be installed. Sure but the installer/updater has no bearing on running the plugins natively in Logic, which is the point of this thread - not to determine whether or not an Mx user needs to install Rosetta or not. The cloud plugins should still be listed as working natively in Logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 Sorry may have been too hasty https://acondigital.com/news/verberate-2-2/ https://jonvaudio.com/fircomp2/ https://www.toneprojects.com/kelvin-tone-shaper.html not Unisum All the rest are actually just supported... my bad Great, thanks a lot for providing those. Yes unfortunately there is a lot of confusion out there as to which plug-ins are natively supported or just supported with Rosetta, and some manufacturers are happy to perpetuate the confusion when they don't provide native support but consider that their non-native version runs without any issues anyway. I'm still trying to provide a list that is as accurate as possible, so thanks for the details. I've edited the list to add those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 https://www.roland.com/RolandComSite/media/global/release/pdf/2021/20210721_1_Roland_Apple_Silicon_Support.pdf Great, thank you des99, I am adding Roland Cloud to the list now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12bitcrunch Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Thanks. I find it really useful to see a list of 100% native plugs. Other threads online have everything mixed up. There’s zero chance of me making the move until iLok, Synchro Arts, Waves and UAD are onboard but I‘ll be watching the thread like a hawk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 I know Pace are working on native iLok support but everyone who knows anything is under NDA at the moment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 Thanks. I find it really useful to see a list of 100% native plugs. Other threads online have everything mixed up. You're welcome, and thanks to all of you who've contributed to this list. I agree that other resources listing native plug-ins have a lot of misinformation unfortunately, so I'm happy to provide an accurate list! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValliSoftware Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Unfortunately, the Roland Sound Cloud Manager is still Intel based and it requires Rosetta 2 to be installed. Sure but the installer/updater has no bearing on running the plugins natively in Logic, which is the point of this thread - not to determine whether or not an Mx user needs to install Rosetta or not. The cloud plugins should still be listed as working natively in Logic. In this case for the Roland Cloud Manager, that's not true. The reason is, the Cloud Manager determines if you're allow to run the Universal plug-ins, so it's always running but the Cloud Manager is running in Rosetta. The plug-ins themselves are Universal, I checked with the lipo -archs command. I extracted the plug-ins from the pkg files and just copied the components into the plug-ins folder but the validation failed. If the installer isn't required, they should have run but as I mentioned before, the Cloud Manager validates if you have the license to run the plug-in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 The plugins are native, and run natively under Logic, I think that counts. The cloud manager handles updates, downloads, installations and licensing, that's all - it's not the cloud manager that's running inside Logic, so whether it requires Rosetta or not isn't, in my humble opinion, a differentiator to say that the Roland Cloud plugins are not native, or that Roland's press release is lying. It's possible that a subsequent version of Cloud manager will be native too, but it didn't stop Roland announcing via a press release that all the plugins are now native silicon compatible. You run Logic natively, and the plugins show up and run natively. So if you are saying you don't think the Roland Cloud plugins should be listed as native, that's your prerogative - I - and Roland - disagree... :shrugs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozinga Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Hi, As of yesterday all U-he products have native Apple Silicon support. (except a few freeware not yet) https://u-he.com/news/#the-performance-update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 Hi, As of yesterday all U-he products have native Apple Silicon support. (except a few freeware not yet) https://u-he.com/news/#the-performance-update Great, thanks! I'm updating the list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn L. Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 MODO Drum by IK is now universal binary, I can confirm. It's the only product in their line that is, so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 MODO Drum by IK is now universal binary, I can confirm. It's the only product in their line that is, so far. Thanks Glenn! Is there an official announcement? I couldn't find any info about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn L. Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 I'm not sure. I think there is somewhere. I know it is in the version history in my products page, and it is somewhere else, but I bought it with IK's latest group buy and checked it myself. It's universal binary. You'd think IK would make it more explicit, but I've given up trying to figure out what IK'S M.O. is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn L. Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 https://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/?item_id=11131 I don't know why they aren't more explicit. 'Compatible' could mean 'useable' but as I mentioned above….shrug… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 https://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/?item_id=11131I don't know why they aren't more explicit. 'Compatible' could mean 'useable' but as I mentioned above….shrug… Indeed, not very explicit. I have reached out directly to IK Multimedia to ask them. Thank you Glenn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 I added Spitfire Audio libraries who have their own chart of which libraries run natively on M1 and which are in beta at the moment: https://spitfireaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/360019055957-Apple-Silicon-M1-Compatibility-Chart-for-Spitfire-Audio-Libraries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted August 11, 2021 Author Share Posted August 11, 2021 I added EastWest support under Rosetta 2 : http://www.soundsonline.com/Support?section=updates&article=2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Almost all the u-he stuff have gone native silicon now - instruments including Zebra, Diva, Repro, Hive, Ace, Bazille, the free instruments ZebraCM, Zebralette, Triple Cheese & Podolski, and FX including Twangstrom, Colour Copy, Satin, Presswerk. There's two or three older plugins which haven't been updated yet as their new UI's and major updates are not quite ready (MFM, Uhbik, Filterscape), but they will follow as those updates get finished. https://u-he.com/news/#the-performance-update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted August 12, 2021 Author Share Posted August 12, 2021 Almost all the u-he stuff have gone native silicon now - instruments including Zebra, Diva, Repro, Hive, Ace, Bazille, the free instruments ZebraCM, Zebralette, Triple Cheese & Podolski, and FX including Twangstrom, Colour Copy, Satin, Presswerk. There's two or three older plugins which haven't been updated yet as their new UI's and major updates are not quite ready (MFM, Uhbik, Filterscape), but they will follow as those updates get finished. https://u-he.com/news/#the-performance-update Thanks Des! Yes I already had changed the u-he listing to reflect that a couple of days ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 (edited) Ah sorry, I hadn't checked the list, just saw that this recent news hadn't been posted here above (Edit: It was, I just missed it... ). I'll check first next time! Great job on this list, thanks David. Edited August 12, 2021 by des99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted August 12, 2021 Author Share Posted August 12, 2021 Ah sorry, I hadn't checked the list, just saw that this recent news hadn't been posted here above. I'll check first next time! Great job on this list, thanks David. Ozinga just posted it yesterday (I thought it was a few days ago but apparently only one day). No worries, and thanks for participating, the list is the result of team work!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipfunk Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Line6 Podfarm is compatible opening Logic in Rosetta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValliSoftware Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Hi, As of yesterday all U-he products have native Apple Silicon support. (except a few freeware not yet) https://u-he.com/news/#the-performance-update Click on the Download now button in your link to see all the Native plug-ins. Download now If you own ZebraHZ, that's also updated as well. I've installed it on my M1 MacMini and it's working fine. Only registered ZebraHZ users can get the link to download it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Since end of April 2021, Korg's software synths (plugins) and some other software are supported on BigSur (Intel and Silicon with Rosetta-2). See the published compatibility chart below, available from Korg's website. 2021-04-20 mac_compatibilitychart_KORG_en.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher11 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 I really like AAS Lounge Lizard and Strum. I hope they would run. Also what about Kontakt, and Arturia plugins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 I really like AAS Lounge Lizard and Strum. I hope they would run. Also what about Kontakt, and Arturia plugins? You can read these companies statements about their development cycle and M1 compatibility on their websites, eg: https://www.arturia.com/faq/utilization/compatibility-with-macos-big-sur https://www.applied-acoustics.com/support/apple-m1-compatibility/ As you can see, AAS stuff is already on the above list and is native compatible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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