stormy Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Just the fact that they are working on the delay compensation problem and seem intent on fixing it for real already says a lot to me. It’s a bug that can really make you not trust the system, and I need to trust the system! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Does anyone know if they fixed the old automation related pdc issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasmusmarshagen Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Important part to note that I left out- this error occurs when using the latency-inducing sidechain plugin on a bus/aux, its working fine directly on tracks. So to summarize: With a ZERO LATENCY sidechain plugin (such as a compressor etc without lookahead or oversampling etc) the sidechain delay compensation now with 10.6.3 works brilliantly, even when placed in between lots of high latency plugins. Works on both tracks and buses now. However- when using a latency inducing sidechain plugin (one that adds latency within itself, such as any plugin with lookahead and or oversampling turned on for example Fabfiter C2 or MB, or Soothe 2 which always adds latency) - then that signal won't be latency compensated when used ON A BUS/AUX. It does work when using on a track though. Hope all this is clear. Very easy to troubleshoot with the flamming technique (soloing original percussive sound and auditioning the sidechain signal from the plugin) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Important part to note that I left out- this error occurs when using the latency-inducing sidechain plugin on a bus/aux, its working fine directly on tracks. So to summarize: With a ZERO LATENCY sidechain plugin (such as a compressor etc without lookahead or oversampling etc) the sidechain delay compensation now with 10.6.3 works brilliantly, even when placed in between lots of high latency plugins. Works on both tracks and buses now. However- when using a latency inducing sidechain plugin (one that adds latency within itself, such as any plugin with lookahead and or oversampling turned on for example Fabfiter C2 or MB, or Soothe 2 which always adds latency) - then that signal won't be latency compensated when used ON A BUS/AUX. It does work when using on a track though. Hope all this is clear. Very easy to troubleshoot with the flamming technique (soloing original percussive sound and auditioning the sidechain signal from the plugin) Could you create a project that shows the issue with a single software instrument track, and upload that in a new thread in the « Bugs » forum? It would make it easier for the Logic developers to analyze. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdilian Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 this Bug has not been fixed. 2021. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
question Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Does anyone know if the issue with the chaotic reassignment of busses, tracks and software instrument assignments discussed in another thread was fixed? Also the (seemingly related) issue of the metronome dropping out? Would Apple normally state that these issues were addressed or just quietly fix them without any mention in the update list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 Does anyone know if the issue with the chaotic reassignment of busses, tracks and software instrument assignments discussed in another thread was fixed? Also the (seemingly related) issue of the metronome dropping out? Would Apple normally state that these issues were addressed or just quietly fix them without any mention in the update list? They would normally state those issues are addressed, if not exactly worded like that. The only things that sometimes get fixed without a mention are very small things, but usually the update lists are very comprehensive as to what was done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IenSmith Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Works fine if I send the channel to a bus and put the compressor there instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0B02 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I've not had time to install it yet (world's slowest broadband here), but I really hope it solves the issue of the Steinberg HALion AU plug-in no longer working in LPX. I've asked Steinberg about this many times and have been assured it's an Apple problem HALion now works properly with Logic again. Hooray! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I welcome the bug fixes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoobysnax Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I’m finding with update 10.6.3 that LFO Tool is way out of sync now, even just on regular channels. Anyone else noticing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlingen Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I’m finding with update 10.6.3 that LFO Tool is way out of sync now, even just on regular channels. Anyone else noticing this? Do you have an example project that you could share with us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviorrok Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Logic 10.7 will come in fall with spatial audio plugins Well I was right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlingen Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Logic 10.7 will come in fall with spatial audio plugins Well I was right Can you please tell us when they'll finally fix PDC once and for all and also when they'll implement plugin searching? :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviorrok Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Well I was right Can you please tell us when they'll finally fix PDC once and for all and also when they'll implement plugin searching? :P LOL I don’t know what is PDC bug but I think we will see plug-in searching in Logic Pro 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I don’t know what is PDC bug That one: Plug-in Delay Compensation broken with external side-chain Can you please tell us when they'll finally fix PDC once and for all I'm afraid the issue is much more complex than it may seem as apparently every little fix they come up with breaks something else. There are so many different possible signal routing configurations that it is apparently a real challenge for developers to determine a behavior that will make sense for all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Shields Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Logic 10.7 will come in fall with spatial audio plugins This 'prediction' seems to be very precise aviorrok. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoobysnax Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I don’t know what is PDC bug That one: Plug-in Delay Compensation broken with external side-chain Can you please tell us when they'll finally fix PDC once and for all I'm afraid the issue is much more complex than it may seem as apparently every little fix they come up with breaks something else. There are so many different possible signal routing configurations that it is apparently a real challenge for developers to determine a behavior that will make sense for all of them. Yup, the timing of plugins such as LFO Tool and Tremelo are still broken on channels using Sidechain or heavy plugins since 10.6.2, including still in 10.7... Still not fixed. Happily, side chain on busses now is in time... but, the issue above is a big issue because if yo have the timing of a tremolo locked to the track, then add more stuff, the timing changes, and you have to "guess" where to put the offset to get it back... Which is a massive loss in trust on repeatability as you build up or go back to or clean up sessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviorrok Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Logic 10.7 will come in fall with spatial audio plugins This 'prediction' seems to be very precise aviorrok. Alan. Did you see my new prediction? Logic Pro 11 will come with search bar for plugins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Did you see my new prediction? Logic Pro 11 will come with search bar for plugins You forgot to specify a date? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviorrok Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Did you see my new prediction? Logic Pro 11 will come with search bar for plugins You forgot to specify a date? Hahaha I still had no prediction for the date but my brain said October 2023 maybe I’m wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Shields Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Hahaha I still had no prediction for the date but my brain said October 2023 maybe I’m wrong Ok, I'll check back in with you in October 2023. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviorrok Posted November 30, 2023 Share Posted November 30, 2023 On 10/20/2021 at 5:25 PM, Alan Shields said: Ok, I'll check back in with you in October 2023. Alan. I was close 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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