St0rMl0rD Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Hi, So I've been testing a M1 MacBook Air with Logic Pro X for some days or so. I have issues because when I load projects that I created with a 2019 MacBook Pro and the Logic that is running there, those projects easily cause the System Overload messages, when I play them back on the M1 machine. If I create a new project on M1, it runs fine, but I haven't yet created a full (and resource heavy) project on the M1 yet. I've tried running it in both Rosetta as well as a non-Rosetta mode, doesn't seem to be any different. Any ideas what could be causing this? Until this is sorted, I'll have to stick with the properly working 2019 MBP and the Logic and plugins and libraries on that machine. I have the same plugins and libraries installed on both machines for the duration of the testing. I'm only using stock plugins and NI Kontakt and libraries in it for the particular project I'm testing this with. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipfunk Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 How many gigs of unified memory did you load in the new M1 MacBook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St0rMl0rD Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 How many gigs of unified memory did you load in the new M1 MacBook? The system has 16 GB of RAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipfunk Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 This may be a pain but I had a project that was screwed up ages ago after an upgrade and I ‘manually migrated’ it to a new project. I copied each track and each parameter, then moved either the midi file or audio file to their matching tracks and got it to work. My project was crashing and not overloading but just thought I’d drop that idea in case it helps you out of a non working situation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 did you do clean installs of logic, and your third-party plugins? or did you migrate those things. check that your NI stuff is up-to-date; possibly try a reinstall of that plugin/content. and you could do a test project on the 2019 mac with ONLY logic plugins, see how that does on the M1. also, are you running rosetta2 or native?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Also, where are those projects stored? External HD? How is it formatted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St0rMl0rD Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 The M1 system was set up fresh, everything installed new and latest and greatest and up to date. The projects are on an external SSD (500 MB/s read and write speed), formatted as macOS Extended (Journaled). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 and what about my questions about NI, and are you running logic natively, or thru rosetta2?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP1965 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Maybe this video can be useful: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... triplets Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 The projects are on an external SSD (500 MB/s read and write speed), formatted as macOS Extended (Journaled). APFS was designed for SSDs. Any reason you're not using it on the external SSD you got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... St0rMl0rD Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 and what about my questions about NI, and are you running logic natively, or thru rosetta2?... As I said, everything is up to date / installed latest available. The issue appears in both modes, as I also wrote in my original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... St0rMl0rD Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 Maybe this video can be useful: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... St0rMl0rD Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 The projects are on an external SSD (500 MB/s read and write speed), formatted as macOS Extended (Journaled). APFS was designed for SSDs. Any reason you're not using it on the external SSD you got? Yes, the hard drive must be compatible with several computers I use (also a third one, which doesn't support APFS). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... St0rMl0rD Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 OK, I did a complete erase of the hard drive, fresh install of macOS Big Sur, installed Logic Pro X and Native Access, and linked a few libraries that I used in the project I'm testing. Here are the issues, straight out of the box: 1. getting the "AUHostingCompabilityService (Logic Pro) wants to make changes" prompt several times, every time I open the project 2. takes quite a long time to load the plugins (about the same time than my previous laptop, 2019 MBP with 32GB RAM 3. there's something not working right with audio, if I change the volume, stuff starts freezing up, if I press the Shift+volume knobs, no sound comes out as it should, etc. When I play back the project, it doesn't produce audio. See the video: All in all, not working properly AT ALL. And this is just stock Logic, Kontakt, Kontakt 6 and a few libraries, nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... facej Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Have you tried Logic Pro (10.6.3) as opposed to some variant of Logic Pro X (last was 10.5.1) Are you sure that your keyboard keys are mapped to perform "logo functions" where they raise and lower sound as opposed to being simply function keys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... St0rMl0rD Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 Have you tried Logic Pro (10.6.3) as opposed to some variant of Logic Pro X (last was 10.5.1) Are you sure that your keyboard keys are mapped to perform "logo functions" where they raise and lower sound as opposed to being simply function keys? There was only Logic Pro available in the App Store when I installed it. The volume buttons work fine even within Logic if that project isn't loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... triplets Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 There was only Logic Pro available in the App Store when I installed it. Which version do you have right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... St0rMl0rD Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 10.6.3. Just tried running Logic in Rosetta, the issue from the video is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... triplets Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 When you open a basic project with just Logic plugins and no Kontakt stuff, does it play normally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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triplets Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 The projects are on an external SSD (500 MB/s read and write speed), formatted as macOS Extended (Journaled). APFS was designed for SSDs. Any reason you're not using it on the external SSD you got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St0rMl0rD Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 and what about my questions about NI, and are you running logic natively, or thru rosetta2?... As I said, everything is up to date / installed latest available. The issue appears in both modes, as I also wrote in my original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St0rMl0rD Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 Maybe this video can be useful: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... St0rMl0rD Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 The projects are on an external SSD (500 MB/s read and write speed), formatted as macOS Extended (Journaled). APFS was designed for SSDs. Any reason you're not using it on the external SSD you got? Yes, the hard drive must be compatible with several computers I use (also a third one, which doesn't support APFS). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... St0rMl0rD Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 OK, I did a complete erase of the hard drive, fresh install of macOS Big Sur, installed Logic Pro X and Native Access, and linked a few libraries that I used in the project I'm testing. Here are the issues, straight out of the box: 1. getting the "AUHostingCompabilityService (Logic Pro) wants to make changes" prompt several times, every time I open the project 2. takes quite a long time to load the plugins (about the same time than my previous laptop, 2019 MBP with 32GB RAM 3. there's something not working right with audio, if I change the volume, stuff starts freezing up, if I press the Shift+volume knobs, no sound comes out as it should, etc. When I play back the project, it doesn't produce audio. See the video: All in all, not working properly AT ALL. And this is just stock Logic, Kontakt, Kontakt 6 and a few libraries, nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... facej Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Have you tried Logic Pro (10.6.3) as opposed to some variant of Logic Pro X (last was 10.5.1) Are you sure that your keyboard keys are mapped to perform "logo functions" where they raise and lower sound as opposed to being simply function keys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... St0rMl0rD Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 Have you tried Logic Pro (10.6.3) as opposed to some variant of Logic Pro X (last was 10.5.1) Are you sure that your keyboard keys are mapped to perform "logo functions" where they raise and lower sound as opposed to being simply function keys? There was only Logic Pro available in the App Store when I installed it. The volume buttons work fine even within Logic if that project isn't loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... triplets Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 There was only Logic Pro available in the App Store when I installed it. Which version do you have right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... St0rMl0rD Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 10.6.3. Just tried running Logic in Rosetta, the issue from the video is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... triplets Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 When you open a basic project with just Logic plugins and no Kontakt stuff, does it play normally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Restore formatting Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply Share More sharing options... Followers 1 Go to topic listing All Activity Home Forums Music Software Logic Pro Projects, created on a non-M1 behaving strangely on M1
St0rMl0rD Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 The projects are on an external SSD (500 MB/s read and write speed), formatted as macOS Extended (Journaled). APFS was designed for SSDs. Any reason you're not using it on the external SSD you got? Yes, the hard drive must be compatible with several computers I use (also a third one, which doesn't support APFS). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St0rMl0rD Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 OK, I did a complete erase of the hard drive, fresh install of macOS Big Sur, installed Logic Pro X and Native Access, and linked a few libraries that I used in the project I'm testing. Here are the issues, straight out of the box: 1. getting the "AUHostingCompabilityService (Logic Pro) wants to make changes" prompt several times, every time I open the project 2. takes quite a long time to load the plugins (about the same time than my previous laptop, 2019 MBP with 32GB RAM 3. there's something not working right with audio, if I change the volume, stuff starts freezing up, if I press the Shift+volume knobs, no sound comes out as it should, etc. When I play back the project, it doesn't produce audio. See the video: All in all, not working properly AT ALL. And this is just stock Logic, Kontakt, Kontakt 6 and a few libraries, nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facej Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Have you tried Logic Pro (10.6.3) as opposed to some variant of Logic Pro X (last was 10.5.1) Are you sure that your keyboard keys are mapped to perform "logo functions" where they raise and lower sound as opposed to being simply function keys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St0rMl0rD Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 Have you tried Logic Pro (10.6.3) as opposed to some variant of Logic Pro X (last was 10.5.1) Are you sure that your keyboard keys are mapped to perform "logo functions" where they raise and lower sound as opposed to being simply function keys? There was only Logic Pro available in the App Store when I installed it. The volume buttons work fine even within Logic if that project isn't loaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 There was only Logic Pro available in the App Store when I installed it. Which version do you have right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St0rMl0rD Posted August 5, 2021 Author Share Posted August 5, 2021 10.6.3. Just tried running Logic in Rosetta, the issue from the video is the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 When you open a basic project with just Logic plugins and no Kontakt stuff, does it play normally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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