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Pattern Region a total Failure for Editing Drums


jimdilian

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Pattern Region is a total Failure for Editing Drums I sill use Piano Roll.. faster and simpler..

amazing ... Drums are Points .. but Apple did it all wrong Again.. anyway...

Cubase Drum editor is 90% better than Piano roll for editing Drums.. but hey

you cannot have That or This.. "a new concept .. didn't do it..."

 

 

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It's just another tool, you don't have to use it if you don't enjoy it. Keep in mind also that this being a new tool added to the collection of editors, it's in its first iteration, and still has room to grow.

 

However why don't you share with us why you find the step sequencer a failure, or what you think should be done to improve upon it?

 

Personally, I think that the step sequencer is an amazing way to perform step automation, such as rhythmic filtering (I share a way of doing that with the Remix FX plug-in and step sequencer in my Logic Pro book). So it's not "just" a drum editor.

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yes.. i guess after many years of waiting for a 1 hit editor for Drums.. it will never happen in Logic Pro X

ever.. the only way to edit my recorded midi drums is Piano Roll... the old way.. maybe in 10 years

 

Actually, the old way is the Step (Hyper) Editor, and I edited *hours* of drums in that back in the day.

 

These days, I usually use a combination of piano roll, event float, sometimes the event editor, and find that perfectly fine for the editing I need to do...

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Sure you can add notes

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Change Velocity

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But in the piano roll you can't change direction per note

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You can't change the step rate, per note

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Writers block, use Randomize for several properties, again, per note

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Save your current Pattern Region and make a copy, then convert that copy to a Midi Region

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Now... you can use the Piano Roll and still apply Midi Transforms as well

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Pattern Region gives you templates to start with

Bass

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Drums

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Melodic

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2021.. amazing :mrgreen:

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Editing Vdrums midi info needs very high resolution. That is exactly what preserves the live feeling. Not all the midi notes fall on the grid. Pattern regions were meant for more robotic music like techno and super quantized drum loops etc. If you try to eat soup with a fork, don’t blame the fork if it does not work out. :) Just trying to help here. Sometimes a good example that all it needs to understand a situation. (I learned this at my job). Hope you find the right tool and make awesome music!
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It sounds like you prefer editing drums with points/flags/hits like in Cubase, REAPER, S1, right? I don't see how that makes the Step sequencer bad. I think more display options in the piano roll would be good but they don't seem to have implemented one for drums yet.

 

Yes ¡

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