DanRad Posted October 12, 2021 Share Posted October 12, 2021 I'm trying to notate a piece in either 12/8 or 4/4 with a lot of triplets. I can get the triplets in either time signature (the 12/8 version doesn't have the brackets). But other combinations such at quarter and eighths or quarter rest and eighth elude me. I was able to create measure #1 beat 1 quarter-eights below by using the "Allow double values." But I had to do it manually. Is there a way to have it "default" to that notation as opposed to just two eighths? (as in measure #2 beat 1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanRad Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 anyone.... Greg? Can you help out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Sorry, I don’t follow what you mean. 4/4 and 12/8 are different time signatures. I think that if you don’t get the triplet’s bracket ("-3-" above the notes) in 12/8 signature, is because those aren’t triplets even if they are attached (beamed)together… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanRad Posted October 13, 2021 Author Share Posted October 13, 2021 Thanks for the response. I've decided to go in 4/4 and use triplets. But I have to jerk around to get things like quarter/eighth grouping using the "double values" in the triplet window or even nudging by ticks to get it to look right. In "swing" pieces, I can force the notation into 1/8th but I'm using 8/12 to get both triplets and eighths. But I can't get it to look right on input and spend way too much time trying to get it to do things like a quarter eighth triplet or two eighth rests and a eighth note triplet... any help is appreciated. (this is an afro-cuban 12/8 feel but playing in 4/4) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 Can you share an example of a Logic project? I didn't have too much trouble programming a simple line in the Piano Roll so that it would look like either of those (the 4/4 one I had to choose 4,12 as my display quantize): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanRad Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 Thanks for your help. I can get triplets to show w/o futzing around.. .but as you can see, even though the 1/8th notes fall on the 3 triplet, they read as 1/8th notes. I can drag in a triplet bracket for certain figures and get 1/4&1/8th under a triplet bracket (see below)...but it's time consuming and I can't seem to get a quarter rest/1/8th note triplet at all... Here I've taken measure #4 and been able to make a 1/4-1/8th triplet but on beat 3, I want a 1/4 rest and an eighth.. but can't get it. I'm wondering if there's a way to "default" the interpretation to show ALL divisions in a triplet bracketed quarter note, hopefully with out doing all this manual editing. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volovicg Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 I just noticed you posted a response while I was replying to this. I will read after this post and update if necessary. The specific question I think you had asked was can the logic score in real-time the triplets as a quarter/eighth? The answer is yes. David was right in that your display quantize needs to be 4,12 to do this and the time signature is irrelevant (works for both 4/4 and 12/8). The key is you need to play in correctly timed triplets ( in the case a quarter note / eighth note triplet example) - I was able to do this manual most times, but was off for a few - so to prove this to you with 100% certainty - I created a track with perfectly timed triplets, and output that to the IAC bus where it was then recorded onto a new track in real-time. You will see that the score reflects automatic identification of triplets based on this, demontrating YES it an be done. ( with the correct display quantization, and correctly played/timed triplets). The default display quantize setting for a new track ( prior to recording ) is always the grid setting ( with the middle triplet value). so /4 is 4,6 : /8 is 8,24 etc... Edit: and in your most recent question - move the middle note in the triplet to the right (creating 1/8 rest, 1/8 rest, eighth note) then drag a quarter rest from the part box onto the first 1/8 rest. Edit: and here is the image for changing what you have in your pic to what you describe you need. A rest followed by an eight note.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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