willmarlogic Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 I'm not sure how many people here use the Ice9 safety limiter, but could someone let me know if it still works in the latest version of Logic? I've been using it on many projects to get around the issue of the white noise blast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 have never heard the legendary white noise burst... wonder what the issue is? hardware? a particular plugin? just curious (so, no idea if ice9 works in 10.7.1). something makes that happen, and yet, not for everyone.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 From all the posts that I've seen about this issue, common denominator hints at a combo between USB interfaces and 3rd party plugins (don't ask which ones). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willmarlogic Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 have never heard the legendary white noise burst... wonder what the issue is? hardware? a particular plugin? just curious (so, no idea if ice9 works in 10.7.1). something makes that happen, and yet, not for everyone.... Odd... I don't think it's hardware as it has happened with no hardware hooked up, so like the other reply said, maybe it's related to third party plugins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Most issues with Logic are related to 3rd party plugins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 have never heard the legendary white noise burst... wonder what the issue is? hardware? a particular plugin? just curious (so, no idea if ice9 works in 10.7.1). something makes that happen, and yet, not for everyone.... Odd... I don't think it's hardware as it has happened with no hardware hooked up, so like the other reply said, maybe it's related to third party plugins? it would be great if all the people who've experienced this compared their third-party plugins; maybe there's that 'common denominator'. just think it would be better to, once and for all, resolve the issue; then no bandaid (ice9) needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamic_Notes Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Never experienced it and never want to. Installed recently and working on my system. (If you go over the threshhold the audio cuts out...a very small price to pay when it comes to protecting your ears) From what Ive seen, theres isolated cases of this happening and pinning it down on something specific is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Too many variables. For example, theres a thread on Native Instruments forum ... 668db-spike-from-massive-x-massivex which was recently closed as an update fixed it. Did everyone who got this issue have MX installed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 I don't see any reason why ICE9 would not work in the latest version of LogicPro 10.7.x. Give it a try, its not hard to test out. Nobody really knows why it happens sometimes. I don't really care whether LogicPro is at fault vs some plugin or USB audio hardware, or coreAudio or something in between. I am very doubtful of it being from a plugin and more suspicious that something related to shuffling audio from one buffer to another somewhere in the chain is at fault. But I think all DAW's should build ice9-type protection into the DAW, make it optional, but build it in. LogicPro may or may not be the thing causing it, but it certainly isn't doing anything to stop it either. One nice thing about using ice9 is that it forces you to take a harder look at your signal chain and make sure every instrument and audio track is keeping under 0db (otherwise you'll be triggering ice9 all day long to cut off sound). So that's a good thing..and then when the toxic blast happens, ice9 will chop it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cleamon Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 My 2 cents (for what that's worth). It seems to me that if the cause of the problem is Logic or a 3rd party plug, then ICE9 would probably help. If it's from any other issue such as CoreAudio, Audio Interface, anything outside of Logic, then I don't think ICE9 is going to help. As I understand, ICE9 only sees (hears) the signal coming through what ever channel strip it's on. Any issues in the signal chain after that (typically your audio interface) will not be monitored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveLpx1 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 For me? it works. Why I need it? There are multiple causes and uses actually. As noted, there are multiple threads on several boards going back years on the subject. It's your choice. Currently I have it as last place in SoundSource set to 0DBFs...hth.../s~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunbrother Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 have never heard the legendary white noise burst... wonder what the issue is? hardware? a particular plugin? just curious (so, no idea if ice9 works in 10.7.1). something makes that happen, and yet, not for everyone.... It’s probably the same reason it happens in Studio One - some kind of exception is poorly handled when third party plug-ins go nuts. Passing invalid data, non-numerical data, losing sync with the audio engine, etc. In that DAW it is also only audible with some interfaces, although it varies whether one exception will be audible with some interfaces or others. Not directly relevant to Logic but might give some insight since they’re both plugin hosts with a similar rare issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willmarlogic Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 Never experienced it and never want to. Installed recently and working on my system. (If you go over the threshhold the audio cuts out...a very small price to pay when it comes to protecting your ears) From what Ive seen, theres isolated cases of this happening and pinning it down on something specific is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Too many variables. For example, theres a thread on Native Instruments forum ... 668db-spike-from-massive-x-massivex which was recently closed as an update fixed it. Did everyone who got this issue have MX installed? Not related to MX for me since I've never used it. I experienced the burst years ago when I had very few third party plugins as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willmarlogic Posted November 28, 2021 Author Share Posted November 28, 2021 For me? it works. Why I need it? There are multiple causes and uses actually. As noted, there are multiple threads on several boards going back years on the subject. It's your choice. Currently I have it as last place in SoundSource set to 0DBFs...hth.../s~ Thank you, I just wanted to make sure it still worked since there have been no updates (and isn't even available for download anymore, just random links from helpful people who use it) since it has saved my ears so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveLpx1 Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 ...you are welcome...aaahhhh the sound of silence...Cheers!.../s~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Thank you, I just wanted to make sure it still worked since there have been no updates (and isn't even available for download anymore, just random links from helpful people who use it) since it has saved my ears so far. Here's an alternative to ice9: https://nugenaudio.com/sigmod/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Morrison Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Cerberus Audio Ice9 v1.1.1 is compatible with macOS 12.0.1 and Logic Pro 10.7.1 The latest installer is available here http://vstplugin.net/cerberus-audio-ice9-automute/ As the installer is not signed, control-click on the installer package, then select Open to install. Restart after installing. NUGEN Audio SigMod v1.2.3 is a good alternative and is also compatible with macOS 12.0.1 and Logic Pro 10.7.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamic_Notes Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Here's another recent account. Someone started a thread couple of weeks ago and said never had it happened until now. It seems until someone finds a common denominator this problem keeps on keeping on and no one is immune. https://www.native-instruments.com/forum/threads/kontakt-and-kinetic-metal-just-blown-my-left-speaker-tweeter.462705/ The MassiveX issue was also mentioned and a Mod there said "It was uninitialized memory in one place that was very tricky to find (and it was Mac AU only)." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Here's another recent account. Someone started a thread couple of weeks ago and said never had it happened until now. It seems until someone finds a common denominator this problem keeps on keeping on and no one is immune. https://www.native-instruments.com/forum/threads/kontakt-and-kinetic-metal-just-blown-my-left-speaker-tweeter.462705/ The MassiveX issue was also mentioned and a Mod there said "It was uninitialized memory in one place that was very tricky to find (and it was Mac AU only)." i ran massive x for some time (no longer) and have never experienced this. maybe everyone who has should list their 3rd-party plugins? see if the common denominator is there? anyway wish all well who have dealt with this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willmarlogic Posted November 30, 2021 Author Share Posted November 30, 2021 Thanks to both of the replies about SigMod, I'm glad to know there are at least alternatives in case Ice9 stops working in the future! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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