Solution Chicster Posted January 24, 2022 Author Solution Share Posted January 24, 2022 Apologies - just went back to my original PT files and yes, you are quite right, that track was indeed 150. I blame my inadequate filing abilities for putting it in the 130 folder! Wish I had picked a 94 or 105 now as an example - I NEVER use those time signatures and I know that are not right... but anyway...we are going round in circles and I don't want to waste anyone's time anymore than I have. All good... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Great! Makes sense in the end. Thank you for putting our minds at ease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Wish I had picked a 94 or 105 Upload these and we'll decipher these too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicster Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 Ok - see what bpm you make this one at then? hats.mp3.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Ok - see what bpm you make this one at then 105 bpm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicster Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 Yes - that is what I get in LPX. I double checked this time before I posted tho: see the attached from ProTools. Not that it necessarily proves anything about bpm...but just highlights that I am not going completely nuts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Yes - that is what I get in LPX. I double checked this time before I posted tho: see the attached from ProTools. Not that it necessarily proves anything about bpm...but just highlights that I am not going completely nuts! That is what you would get in any app: Pro Tools, Cubase... etc. if you tried to play the metronome in sync with that audio file. In any app, you can set the tempo to anything you'd like, unrelated to the media you have inside the file. That does not mean the media plays music at that tempo. Like I said earlier: All I can say is it is 130 in ProTools (and Cubase as it was mixed in that). It's possible that in Pro Tools (or Cubase) the file's tempo was mistakenly set to 130, however the audio is undeniably playing a 150 bpm beat, so in that case, if you turned on a metronome in Pro Tools (or Cubase), the metronome would not be in sync with the audio. You can play the audio file on any kind of playback systems other than Logic if you want to verify that it plays at the same speed (QuickLook, QuickTime, Music, etc....). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicster Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 Ok - well let's close this one off now as we are going around in circles and I get the method of setting the tempo in LPX now so I will just use that and ignore the incoming. Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 105 is undoubtedly correct. Again, 90 has a *substantially* different feel from 105. I can't imagine recording a song at 90, thinking it is 105 or vice versa. Are you absolutely, positively sure that what we hear is the actual tempo that you recorded the drums in while you, the drummer and the engineer nodded their heads in 90 ? Like, really ? I'm still not ruling out the possibility of Something Strange Has Happened™ in the transfer ProTools > Logic or Elastic Audio > Sample Rate > Flex Time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicster Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 All I can add is that I wrote that original song 6 years ago. I played the demo backing track to click in PT at the tempo in the header - 90. Paul recorded the drums against that backing track and click. It said 90 at the time and still says 90. After the drum session, I took the drum tracks back, imported them into PT in a new session, set the tempo at 90 so the grid worked and redid the guitars, keys and vox to final recording quality. Then it went for mixing in a folder marked track name and bpm... Mibbe I am going mad after all...or I'm just old. Not to worry. I'm sure you have better things to do than chase this round and round! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Open the session in PT (the one that says 90bpm), turn on a metronome, and listen to see if the metronome is in sync with the audio recordings or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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