Eric Wikman Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 (edited) Here is a quick Sine Wave - "Fat Kick Trigger" Video tutorial. I'm not the greatest at these things. Just for fun. Moved: more tutes here.... http://web.mac.com/absorbmusic freqpitch_chart.jpg.zip Freq Chart Edited February 1, 2008 by Eric Wikman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yacithane Posted December 20, 2007 Share Posted December 20, 2007 great lesson!!! i sure didnt know that before, definitely looks like something i will be using. and that frequency pitch table will sure come in handy. Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagal Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 This is a great tutorial, can we get it moved to the Tips and Tricks section? I just spent about 45 minutes trying to find this again after losing the link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djals Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Thanks for taking the time out to do this, nice dynamic. Another thing that has a nice sound to it are the claps in your video. Anything special going on there or just a cool sample? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joerivas9 Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 great tutorial. how did you get your logic (GUI?) interface to look like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djals Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Check the following: http://www.logicprohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=18345&highlight=edgar+rothermich There's another thread about this on the forum too. dB values on the faders are a god send! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxedwards Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 this is a great tutorial! thanks for putting it up deepswing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleozzy Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I actually did this on a rock track where I had a really thin, but crack-y kick drum, although I did it a bit more simply, by just sticking a noise gate right on the sine wave track and sidechaining it to the kick track. Worked great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 I actually did this on a rock track where I had a really thin, but crack-y kick drum, although I did it a bit more simply, by just sticking a noise gate right on the sine wave track and sidechaining it to the kick track. Worked great. Yeah Eric, why all the printing of sine audio files? Why not just gate the Test Osc itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Wikman Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 I actually did this on a rock track where I had a really thin, but crack-y kick drum, although I did it a bit more simply, by just sticking a noise gate right on the sine wave track and sidechaining it to the kick track. Worked great. Yeah Eric, why all the printing of sine audio files? Why not just gate the Test Osc itself? It just seemed to be easier in the long run to have a folder with the audio files of each key sine wave. Really, I don't have to look up the freq on that chart each time and set the Test Osc then. Sometimes I feel audio tracks are easier to deal with too. Maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 It just seemed to be easier in the long run to have a folder with the audio files of each key sine wave.Really, I don't have to look up the freq on that chart each time and set the Test Osc then. Sometimes I feel audio tracks are easier to deal with too. Maybe not. I see, thanks for your answer. Makes total sense now. What seems to be convoluted technically can actually make your life easier, depending on the workflow. So your audio files are named "C1", "C#1" and so on right? I thought they were named "55Hz" and "63Hz"... which would defeat the purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Wikman Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 It just seemed to be easier in the long run to have a folder with the audio files of each key sine wave.Really, I don't have to look up the freq on that chart each time and set the Test Osc then. Sometimes I feel audio tracks are easier to deal with too. Maybe not. I see, thanks for your answer. Makes total sense now. What seems to be convoluted technically can actually make your life easier, depending on the workflow. So your audio files are named "C1", "C#1" and so on right? I thought they were named "55Hz" and "63Hz"... which would defeat the purpose. I named them with both the freq & note name. Thanks David. Eric PS.. I will zip my folder and upload to my site for anyone who just wanted to download them. They are about 16 bars each, so not that large of files (these days). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterboy Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Nice tutorial. That is a cool trick to know. Thanks a lot for the effort. Encore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Wikman Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 Thanks.. a few more tutes here... http://web.mac.com/absorbmusic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonM Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 Nice tutorial... Thanks I am the only one hearing a tremendously annoying 6.2k squeal? -D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Wikman Posted January 17, 2008 Author Share Posted January 17, 2008 Nice tutorial... Thanks I am the only one hearing a tremendously annoying 6.2k squeal? -D Yea, I used Snapz for the tutorial and for some reason, I had that high freq pitch in there on some, after It bounced. No ground problems here, and I haven't had it on some recent ones. Sorry 'bout that. I thought maybe it was the codec I choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianm Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 You could just play the MIDI region with the EXS24 with no instrument loaded. It will play a sine wave at the proper pitch for the note. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spunkadellic Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 dont yall forget you can do the same thing with a snare and a white noise generator - to add more sizzle to a flat sounding snare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellleutel Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 dont yall forget you can do the same thing with a snare and a white noise generator - to add more sizzle to a flat sounding snare yeah in that case I would even understand why to put an EQ to that channel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkecho Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Wouldnt it be nice to have the TestOsc be a midi instrument so that if you wanted to change keys, you wouldnt need to have a different test osc with a difference frequency? or... can one automate the test osc frequency? so that if you have a key change you can keep one testosc track and not have two, (or more depending on the amount of keychanges...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianm Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Wouldnt it be nice to have the TestOsc be a midi instrument so that if you wanted to change keys, you wouldnt need to have a different test osc with a difference frequency? or... can one automate the test osc frequency? so that if you have a key change you can keep one testosc track and not have two, (or more depending on the amount of keychanges...) it IS an instrument! Put it on an instrument track and play it via MIDI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob0172 Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 I aways layerd sines in ultrabeat, its very easy there. Recently im more into battery so this trick came in handy I only mis the pitch envelope option now. Does anyone know how to add a pitch envelope to the tone generator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meezy Posted January 19, 2008 Share Posted January 19, 2008 I'd pay for a step by step tutorial on how you produced "Rise Up" (or any of your tracks for that matter). That track gives me goose bumps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkecho Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 Really!? so you programm a c1 note and it adjusts the testosc to the proper Hz? that rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpmusicny Posted January 20, 2008 Share Posted January 20, 2008 You could just play the MIDI region with the EXS24 with no instrument loaded. It will play a sine wave at the proper pitch for the note I totally concur - a much easier/neater way to achieve the same thing - plus, the EXS route gives you extra flexibility of being able to adjust the envelope of the sine wave, in case, for example, you want a slow decay on the boom.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianm Posted January 21, 2008 Share Posted January 21, 2008 Really!? so you programm a c1 note and it adjusts the testosc to the proper Hz? that rocks. yep! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterboy Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 so how have things been on this front? Any new material for us to sink our teeth into, sir? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Wikman Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 I'm working on a few more. Any suggestions? http://web.mac.com/absorbmusic Did anyone make any impulse responses PST of their bathroom yet to share? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterboy Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 As silly as it sounds, I have never loaded my own samples into the EXS. Now I am gonna have to give it a try! Thanks for the tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Wikman Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 I put up a quick EXS drag n drop tutorial... on my .Mac account page. I made it for some friends who used to use Halion. I still use Halion 3 due to it being much easier to edit sample starts, without opening a sample editor each time for each sample. Makes for much faster work, when using a few hundred raw drum bits with ruff start points. Not everyone uses raw samples from records though. They do give your underground tracks some dirt. Also a couple basic Recycle tutorials also, from a while back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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