adamjhoward Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Hi, I'm creating a lead sheet. I want to insert some slash notation to indicate certain rhythms needed to play. I'm playing in the rhythm then change the note heads in the score editor so it looks like slash notation. But if I do that, all the note heads have the slash style, even half notes and full whole notes. Is there a setting to change the style to this slash notation for notes? A logic help.pdf logic help.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamjhoward Posted September 24, 2010 Author Share Posted September 24, 2010 btw. How do I insert the image I attached, into the message rather? A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Moth Posted September 24, 2010 Share Posted September 24, 2010 Double click the note head (settings may vary) and change it there. Is this what you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamjhoward Posted September 25, 2010 Author Share Posted September 25, 2010 Thanks Beer Moth. Yeah. I'd gone there. It just doesn't look that "pro". I'm using the jazz font, which makes it look a bit worse. Also, if I have an 8th note tied to a half note, I can only have one note head, where really, the 8th note should be filled in, and the half note. How do you insert a picture into a message? Thanks. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Moth Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 To do a screenshot CmdShift 3 (whole screen) or CmdShift 4 and select a portion. Saves automatically as a png to your desktop. Add attatchment button and browse to file,then submit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenorman Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Hi, Don't know if you found a solution ... but FWIW, the convention for indicating rhythms is using "x's" as the notehead for quarter (or dotted quarter) and smaller note values and using x's with a circle for half notes and greater values. Attached is a pic. If you need to cross the bar with a note value you have to add the value in the next bar and connect the notes with a tie. Of course you can use whatever symbol you want. But normally slashes are used for indicating that instrument simply comps and chords are added above the staff. Once again, you can use whatever symbols you'd like, these are just the common conventions. Hope this helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Moth Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 They might be where you come from... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Let's jump all over tenorman, why don't we? Just kidding, of course. Tenor (sax, I presume), meet Beer Moth. Fine alto player (and then some). Mothy? Tenorman. Oh, and I'm Ski, fly on the wall. OK, now that we've all been properly introduced... Tenorman, this is the first time I'm seeing that notation too. Would you mind expounding a bit on where this kind of notation comes from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Moth Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Yeah,wasn't meant to come across so abrupt! Laziness on my part. Sorry,and Hi Tenorman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 BMoth, To know you is to forgive you. Wait, I'm not sure that came across in the endearing way I meant it. Hmmm... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenorman Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Hi and great to meet you both! And yes, I blow a little tenor. My apologies if I came across a bit presumptuous and assuming. Not my intention. I'm kinda' new at this sort of communicating and might not have my etiquette together. : ) A little background, as well as play saxophone I do score work both classical and jazz. I've worked with several publishing companies over the years and primarily use Finale but Logic is my goto software for digital audio and quick and down and dirty notation. (I've been working with Logic since it was Notator, 1989, on an Atari 1040 Mega ST.) And every publishing company has their own conventions or how they want things to look. Or as adamjhoward mentions below making it look more "pro". There's really no right or wrong way. Don't want to make this too lengthy but to expound a bit, in the jazz world in particular if one wants to indicate rhythms without specific notes or chord voicings or if you want the drummer to kick a particular rhythm the "convention" or what's most common in the notation industry is to use noteheads as I've indicated. Certainly does not have to be that way! In reality, whatever expedites learning the music and disrupts the creative process the least is the best way to go. Feel free to visit my myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/tomwashatka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 A man from Oshkosh! Welcome to the forum. We need more horn players here. Hopefully one day we can form a virtual big band. We got tenor and alto, a good start! Hey, thanks so much for this info. Being totally outside of the publishing world this is a new perspective for me. I've never seen those kinds of noteheads used outside of drum notation. Interesting! Now, a little OT (off-topic) perhaps, but being that you have the kind of background you described, could you offer a recommendation for a musical notation reference book? Sometimes the finer points of how to notate things escapes my brain. For example, do you start a slur before or right on the notehead? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Moth Posted October 3, 2010 Share Posted October 3, 2010 Nice playing,man! 8) Pretty much always come across slash (with stems when nec) for chord rhythms,and the crossheads for drums and ghost notes and stuff. Nothing's set in stone though,as you say. Cross in circle might be used for alternate fingerings,f'r instance. But there are other ways. I bow to your superior qualifications,but suspect it varies from one to another quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenorman Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Generally you would start the slur or tie a little to the right of the center of the notehead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Thanks tenorman! That was just one of many questions I have in this regard. Is there a book you could recommend that goes into detail about these kinds of things? (Either that or I'll be forced to rain questions down upon you!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookatthisguy Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Nice to see another Finale user on here! Interesting to read the convention about x-heads as opposed to slash-heads though… my understanding was that notes with slash-heads were the norm for specifying a certain rhythm. Anyway, not to "hijack" the thread, but to answer Ski's question, for all the work I've done with Finale (or manuscript, for that matter, which I do as often for fun as efficiency, depending on what I'm writing), I picked up Alfred's Essential Dictionary of Music Notation. It came in handy as a supplement to my Theory I textbook from way back when, as it keeps pretty much everything streamlined and easy to comprehend. Though I haven't even touched the Logic score editor much yet, so I don't know how that one works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 lookatthisguy, Thanks, much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookatthisguy Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 No problem! I figure as many questions as I have, I should probably contribute as well to be fair… haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tenorman Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Everyone works a little differently. And everything is contextual. For every rule or convention there is an exception. I think the point might be to not get too bogged down with convention at the expense of the creative process and sometimes a simple explanation can remove any vagueness. Sometimes three weeks of email can be eliminated with a three minute phone conversation or a clarification at rehearsal. : ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Sometimes three weeks of email can be eliminated with a three minute phone conversation or a clarification at rehearsal. : ) So... what's your phone number? BTW tenorman, you can probably tell that we like to have fun around here. But that said, what you said in your post is just sooooooo true. Regards, -=sKi=- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookatthisguy Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 I definitely agree there. When writing part books for some musicals we've done at the school where I work, I've learned that a page up front with a key or guide of some sort (in case of drum set books, as an example,) really went a long way. Even before I had a system of my own, so long as the player had that, s/he was fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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