hungrydave Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Is there somewhere i can see a list of the instruments i have open? I'm confused as to whether i've got multiple tracks routed to the same instrument or if they're making a new instrument each time. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Look at the channel strips in the Mixer. You can Option-click the "Inst" button at the top of the mixer to only display software instrument channel strips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hungrydave Posted July 22, 2012 Author Share Posted July 22, 2012 thanks david. Looks like it is making new instruments each time. Is there a way to assign a track to an existing instrument. Like if i'm using a drum instrument, then i might want to put kick and snare on a different track to hi hats, but i still only need them to play the same instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 22, 2012 Share Posted July 22, 2012 Is there a way to assign a track to an existing instrument. Like if i'm using a drum instrument, then i might want to put kick and snare on a different track to hi hats, but i still only need them to play the same instrument. Yes, choose Track > New with Same Channel Strip/Instrument. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Is there a way to assign a track to an existing instrument. Like if i'm using a drum instrument, then i might want to put kick and snare on a different track to hi hats, but i still only need them to play the same instrument. Yes, choose Track > New with Same Channel Strip/Instrument. Interesting! I thought that would have just created a new track with the same channel strip pulgins and instrument but re- instanciated on the new created track.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Juda Sleaze Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Is there a way to assign a track to an existing instrument. Like if i'm using a drum instrument, then i might want to put kick and snare on a different track to hi hats, but i still only need them to play the same instrument. Yes, choose Track > New with Same Channel Strip/Instrument. Interesting! I thought that would have just created a new track with the same channel strip pulgins and instrument but re- instanciated on the new created track.. Me too, that's how it reads in the manual. The other option is to use multi-output instuments (scroll down to "Using Multi-Output Instruments in the Mixer"): http://help.apple.com/logicpro/mac/9.1.6/en/logicpro/usermanual/index.html#chapter=27%26section=12%26tasks=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I thought that would have just created a new track with the same channel strip pulgins and instrument but re- instanciated on the new created track.. Not sure what you mean - but it creates a new track assigned to the same channel strip (so no new channel strip), as the name implies. To create a new track assigned to a new channel strip with the same plug-ins, you would choose Track > New with Duplicate Settings. It's easy to understand the behavior of those various functions: • Create a new empty project with one track. • Open the Mixer. • Try the various new track creation options in the Arrange area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 The other option is to use multi-output instuments That would be exactly the opposite of what the OP requested: it would allow you to route the sound of the instrument to multiple channel strips. The OP wants the MIDI data spread out over multiple tracks, all routed to the same single channel strip. He said: i might want to put kick and snare on a different track to hi hats, but i still only need them to play the same instrument. So... unless by "track" he really meant "channel strip", multi-output instruments is not the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Juda Sleaze Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 To create a new track assigned to a new channel strip with the same plug-ins, you would choose Track > New with Duplicate Settings. Oh yeah, that's what I was reading about in the manual The other option is to use multi-output instuments That would be exactly the opposite of what the OP requested: it would allow you to route the sound of the instrument to multiple channel strips. The OP wants the MIDI data spread out over multiple tracks, all routed to the same single channel strip. Unless the OP meant channel strip when he said tracks, of course.... which is a possibility. Of course. I just hate the thought of my midi drum tracks being spread out over several tracks! I'd have to select the regions on all the drum tracks every time I wanted to know which "hands" the "drummer" had free to do stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hungrydave Posted July 23, 2012 Author Share Posted July 23, 2012 Of course. I just hate the thought of my midi drum tracks being spread out over several tracks! I'd have to select the regions on all the drum tracks every time I wanted to know which "hands" the "drummer" had free to do stuff. I hear ya! But right now i'm writing salsa, so 10 hands minimum is well within the range of realistic sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev. Juda Sleaze Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Of course. I just hate the thought of my midi drum tracks being spread out over several tracks! I'd have to select the regions on all the drum tracks every time I wanted to know which "hands" the "drummer" had free to do stuff. I hear ya! But right now i'm writing salsa, so 10 hands minimum is well within the range of realistic sound Fair do's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 I thought that would have just created a new track with the same channel strip pulgins and instrument but re- instanciated on the new created track.. Not sure what you mean - but it creates a new track assigned to the same channel strip (so no new channel strip), as the name implies. To create a new track assigned to a new channel strip with the same plug-ins, you would choose Track > New with Duplicate Settings. It's easy to understand the behavior of those various functions: • Create a new empty project with one track. • Open the Mixer. • Try the various new track creation options in the Arrange area. My! My! I guess that after reading those thousands of pages, I lost that part somewhere or misunderstood it... So if I understand well, that procedure explained above (Track > New with Same Channel Strip/Instrument) is like creating some kind of MIDI stem or splitting a MIDI track into parallel ones, all routed to the same output. Hmmm! That opens possibilities... Thanx for the clarifications! I realize that Logic has subtleties I was not expecting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 My! My! I guess that after reading those thousands of pages, I lost that part somewhere or misunderstood it... So if I understand well, that procedure explained above (Track > New with Same Channel Strip/Instrument) is like creating some kind of MIDI stem or splitting a MIDI track into parallel ones, all routed to the same output. Hmmm! That opens possibilities... Thanx for the clarifications! I realize that Logic has subtleties I was not expecting! Yes, kind of. You can see it as different Tracks routed to the same Channel Strip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 So if I understand well, that procedure explained above (Track > New with Same Channel Strip/Instrument) is like creating some kind of MIDI stem or splitting a MIDI track into parallel ones, all routed to the same output. You got it. Hmmm! That opens possibilities... Yup, for example you could have ... two audio tracks routed to the same audio channel strip, one containing the audio regions and the other containing MIDI region automation.....: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Hmmm! That opens possibilities... Yup, for example you could have ... two audio tracks routed to the same audio channel strip, one containing the audio regions and the other containing MIDI region automation.....: Or you could have every drum on a different track... or you could have different MIDI channels trigger different parts of a Multi-timbral instrument (sounds familiar? )... Or you could have different versions of an audio take (old comping method)... or you could... 8) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted July 25, 2012 Share Posted July 25, 2012 Don't stop! Pleeeaaase! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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