slamthecrank Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Anyone know any real-world difference between the new Project system vs. the LP9 Folders system of files? Is one actually different than the other? I chose to save as "Projects", but now I'm wondering if that project file actually contains all of the old folders that used to be in the Main Folder of a LP9 project (bounces, backups, etc.) Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 project is kinda great, you can save audio files, other media in one single file. bounces...go elsewhere. i wasn't sure i liked it at first. now i am saving EVERYTHING as a project... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamthecrank Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 When you say "bounces...go elsewhere" - are they not contained in a bounce folder anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Does Project format takes less place than the other folder format? Isn't there any risk to get everything corrupted (read unretrievable) if all is packed in a single Project file? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Is a project saved in this manner actually a "package"? Are you able to right-click the project in the finder and select "show package contents"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eriksimon Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Tip for everybody on how to investigate: open a finished LP 9 project that has something of everything in its project folder (samples, audio files, backups) in LP X, Save it as "Myproject - test" (Include ALL assets), then if you want remove some assets (just so the folder does not get too big), then Save again. Then Save as a package "Myproject-testpack". Open a window with the project folder contents, and one with the package (rightclick and "Show Package Contents"), and compare away! I quickly inspected an LP X package, and I noticed that the project file backups are no longer one single file in a package. Also it seems they cannot be opened - which is a bit of a I could find zero explanation in the LP X documentation of why and how to use one over the other, I would love to be enlightened about what is actually different, other than that doubleclicking it launches Logic and having to rightclick-open it from a contextual menu? What's the advantage? The internet told me they are folders "disguised to look like single files"... The only advantage I can think of is in a classroom situation perhaps? Less chance of inexperienced students effing up the project folder by trashing things from it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I quickly inspected an LP X package, and I noticed that the project file backups are no longer one single file in a package. Also it seems they cannot be opened - which is a bit of a The backups are opened directly from Logic now. J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slamthecrank Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share Posted July 28, 2013 I quickly inspected an LP X package, and I noticed that the project file backups are no longer one single file in a package. Also it seems they cannot be opened - which is a bit of a The backups are opened directly from Logic now. J. Interesting. So, do you have to specify that you are opening a "backup" within Logic, or do you just direct Logic to open a folder named "00"? (with no Logic file inside, just a plist etc?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi Torres Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Interesting. So, do you have to specify that you are opening a "backup" within Logic, or do you just direct Logic to open a folder named "00"? (with no Logic file inside, just a plist etc?) You can open backups associated to a specific project from the File menu: J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donau Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 One downside to using the package option is that you can't access the audio files folder of other logic projects from the logic file browser. I also like to have the possibility to color label my project versions directly from finder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lologic Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Tip for everybody on how to investigate: open a finished LP 9 project that has something of everything in its project folder (samples, audio files, backups) in LP X, Save it as "Myproject - test" (Include ALL assets), then if you want remove some assets (just so the folder does not get too big), then Save again. Then Save as a package "Myproject-testpack". Open a window with the project folder contents, and one with the package (rightclick and "Show Package Contents"), and compare away! I quickly inspected an LP X package, and I noticed that the project file backups are no longer one single file in a package. Also it seems they cannot be opened - which is a bit of a I could find zero explanation in the LP X documentation of why and how to use one over the other, I would love to be enlightened about what is actually different, other than that doubleclicking it launches Logic and having to rightclick-open it from a contextual menu? What's the advantage? The internet told me they are folders "disguised to look like single files"... The only advantage I can think of is in a classroom situation perhaps? Less chance of inexperienced students effing up the project folder by trashing things from it? [attachment=0]pic 2013-07-28 at 09.38.42.PNG[/attachment] the advantage is tidiness, these are the same as all the items in the applications folder, which the OS presents as single files but are of course many lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 am appreciating the package concept; it IS tidier. and easy enough to open the package IF i need to copy audio files or something...IF. & saving 'bounce in place' audio IN the package (as opposed to having an Audio Files folder in my general logic folder) makes a lot of sense... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwhizofto Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Found this older thread, but couldn't see the answer to my question. Does LPX have a way to save VS or Play instrument sample data into the project folder, or only EXS (Apple) samples? In File->Project Settings->Assets there is no check for "All assets", only checkbox for Apple things, audio files and movies. Thanks, Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Found this older thread, but couldn't see the answer to my question. Does LPX have a way to save VS or Play instrument sample data into the project folder, or only EXS (Apple) samples? In File->Project Settings->Assets there is no check for "All assets", only checkbox for Apple things, audio files and movies. Thanks, Michael seems to be apple-only. i often use new sonic art's 'nuance' plugin for samples, and have to save those samples separate from my project file.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabbi Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I'm new to Pro X & am struggling with how to save also. The way I'm used to working in L9 is: first save project with all sub folders in. Then each time the song makes a significant change, save just the 'song' only. So, if I change the bass sound I call my song 'Graham Song 2 bass sound'. If I add a mid section, I save as 'Graham Song 3 mid section'. This way I can always know where to go if I want to revert to a previous version or part. How do I apply this to Pro X? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I'm new to Pro X & am struggling with how to save also. The way I'm used to working in L9 is: first save project with all sub folders in. Then each time the song makes a significant change, save just the 'song' only. So, if I change the bass sound I call my song 'Graham Song 2 bass sound'. If I add a mid section, I save as 'Graham Song 3 mid section'. This way I can always know where to go if I want to revert to a previous version or part.How do I apply this to Pro X? Your LP9 method would still work in LPX. The new Alternatives could be another convenient approach. The only drawback from that new feature is that the Alternatives could be affected if one of them gets corrupted... Judicious prudence principles would apply here. Personnally I did not encounter such problem so far, and find the Alternatives being a realy useful new addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crabbi Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Thanks, I'll try that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guavadude Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Im using Logic X the way I've always used L9, which is folders style and then using Save As for my versions. How does Alternatives differ from that? I'm not understanding how one getting corrupt could ruin all alts. One new thing I noticed that I'm not crazy about is that when you save using folders style, it creates a lot more empty folders than were created in L9. Now there are folders for everything including elements that might not be used in the sequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluedog Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Additionally, when saving as "folder" but not checking any of the particular files (audio, etc ) below, it STILL includes a set of the audio files! I mean the idea is to save those only once or at least only the new ones...is there any way of saving the next project update without re-saving all the audio files?? Looking forward to being shown that I was doing something wrong I hope M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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