Logic Pro X more headroom???

Hasn't anyone noticed more headroom in Logic pro X?

I have to push the channel faders up a lot more and to hit red on the master fader.

In logic 9 I would have my drum channels sitting around -8dB - now i pushing them up to 0dB and above

I'm also needing to boost the prefade volume with the gain plugin a lot more than in 9.

I found that channels would hit the red much more/sooner in logic 9.

Not that lots of headroom is a bad thing

"Hitting red" is a meaningless term in a DAW, and only means red in the context of how the meters are coloured.

The audio processing is exactly the same, and so are the levels - just the meters have been reworked a little. So forget the "red" bit - what levels are you mixing to? (Hint: If you don't know, you should...)

You know that internally, inside the mixer, channels have approximately ~1500dB of headroom? And from the output of the master fader, a DAW has *zero* headroom - everything is fine up until 0dBFS and then we're clipping.

Mix headroom is where *you* decide to put it, which is why most people with good engineering practices are mixing to something like K12 or K14 or whereabouts, to leave themselves plenty of headroom in a fixed point file.

The dynamic of your DAW is fixed by the amount of bits it's using. Since LPX and LP9 use the same audio engine, they have the same dynamic.

As Beej' said, how you separate your entire dynamic range into useful signals and headroom is your decision as the user.

ok

so what i'm saying is I seem to have to push my faders up lot more in X to get the equivalent output (from the master) I was getting in 9.

so what i'm saying is I seem to have to push my faders up lot more in X to get the equivalent output (from the master) I was getting in 9.

That make no sense to me at all.

Load your LP9 project into LPX and use a metering plugin to tell you the various levels on the channels and main output - they will be identical between versions. If they are not, something is very wrong...