deckard1 Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Hi, I have a Lexicon MX200 rack effects unit that I wanted to try and use in conjunction with Logic just for curiosity's sake. Can anyone help me with the setup possibly? I believe I use the I/O plugin in Logic, but, I don't know how to hook up the cables to my audio interface going into Logic. My audio interface is an Apogee Element 24 and has 2 inputs and 2 outputs. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 You need at least 4 outputs on your interface to use external hardware comfortably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 You need at least 4 outputs on your interface to use external hardware comfortably. I can monitor through headphones. So, 2 outputs should suffice, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Question is if the headphones output is a mirror of the stereo out or completely independent on the Apogee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted November 23, 2017 Author Share Posted November 23, 2017 Question is if the headphones output is a mirror of the stereo out or completely independent on the Apogee. I honestly have no idea. I would have to contact Apogee tech support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 You can route the outputs in the Maestro software. If you're sending the signal to the effects processor, I don't think you can monitor the hardware effects return, since you're already using it to send it out. Hence my point of needing 4 outputs. You would have to record it to hear the end result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted November 23, 2017 Share Posted November 23, 2017 Try create an aggregate device with your built in audio and your apogee and use that as output device in Logic. Use your headphones-jack on your mac for stereo out in LPX, and the apogee outputs for the I/O plugin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 Try create an aggregate device with your built in audio and your apogee and use that as output device in Logic. Use your headphones-jack on your mac for stereo out in LPX, and the apogee outputs for the I/O plugin. Thanks! Will try that out. I remember I was able to make it work on a Scarlett 2i2 a couple of years ago and the 2i2 only has 2 inputs and 2 outputs like the Apogee Element. I just can't remember what I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 26, 2017 Share Posted November 26, 2017 You could always use your Mac's built-in output with your headphones to monitor while you're using the audio interface to connect to the external audio processor. That means making an aggregate device out of the Apogee and your built-in output. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted November 27, 2017 Author Share Posted November 27, 2017 You could always use your Mac's built-in output with your headphones to monitor while you're using the audio interface to connect to the external audio processor. That means making an aggregate device out of the Apogee and your built-in output. Thanks, David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas192 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 You need at least 4 outputs on your interface to use external hardware comfortably. This has not been my experience, but I have an open mind, so I would love to hear your explanation why. I have a rack with 3 outboard sound modules. I record a single track at a time and do not layer during recording, so a patch panel serves my purposes. I have to use a switch box for the MIDI, but it works. I print the external sounds to individual audio tracks, so they are never live during playback/mix/master. But you may do things very differently, so I would be interested to hear your reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 If you're using a stereo hardware compressor and you want to monitor before and after separately, you need 4 outputs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas192 Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Couldn't you just defeat the compressor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted December 21, 2017 Share Posted December 21, 2017 Couldn't you just defeat the compressor? I don't understand your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas192 Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 I'll try again. If you need to monitor before and after, wouldn't just putting the compressor in bypass be the same as 'before'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I'll try again. If you need to monitor before and after, wouldn't just putting the compressor in bypass be the same as 'before'? Of course you can do that. But if you're using the only outputs on your interface to send to a compressor and then you want to listen to the result of what's coming back on your speakers, you can't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas192 Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I guess not. Your answer earlier seemed to indicate 'you need', which is a bit of a sweeping statement. 'But if', here, is a qualification to that. There are multiple ways to skin a cat, including using software compressors instead, or using a patch panel to reroute. Since many of us like to compress mildly a number of times in stages, that is typically done in software, bc the expense to do that in hardware might be prohibitive. 'You need' seems to not apply to every situation. But this is still good food for thought when mulling the decision how many outputs might be needed, so thanks for getting us to think about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 I guess not. Your answer earlier seemed to indicate 'you need', which is a bit of a sweeping statement. How do you propose to cable a stereo external compressor with Logic using an audio device that has less than 4 outputs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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