deckard1 Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Hello, If I am working on a Logic project on one Mac, is it possible to have the Logic project show up on another Mac? Without having to actually send it. Kind of like how iCloud works...where it shows up on all your Macs...music, emails, etc. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 I suppose you could work with a project in iCloud, but I haven't personally tried it and would assume there may be issues associated with it, especially with streaming the audio files, unless you can keep a local copy of the audio files. You would still have to save the project in order for the file to be updated on iCloud, so the workflow wouldn't be much faster from working with a project saved locally, saving it then backing it up on iCloud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 I suppose you could work with a project in iCloud, but I haven't personally tried it and would assume there may be issues associated with it, especially with streaming the audio files, unless you can keep a local copy of the audio files. You would still have to save the project in order for the file to be updated on iCloud, so the workflow wouldn't be much faster from working with a project saved locally, saving it then backing it up on iCloud. Thanks, David. Yes...what you said at the very end. That's what I want to do. How would I back up a Logic Project on iCloud after saving it locally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Thanks, David. Yes...what you said at the very end. That's what I want to do. How would I back up a Logic Project on iCloud after saving it locally? Just drag and drop to your iCloud folder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 I have tried working on a project in iCloud. It was an total train wreck, wouldn't recommend. What happens is this: You create a project in your iCloud folder on computer A and record into it. All closed files (finished recordings, closed project files) are uploaded to the Apple server. On computer B these files will download eventually (as quick as network bandwidth permits) and you can use them there. So all files are copied twice, through the internet. This can be quite slow, depending on your connection. Also, file locations in iCloud aren't what they seem. There is no visible folder 'iCloud' on your computer with your stuff in it. Instead, it's a hidden folder with cryptic names inside Library/Application Support. Now, MacOS normally handles this for you in the background so you don't even notice, but if you are building and saving Sampler instruments to iCloud, the paths to the samples, which are written into the instrument, will end up pointing to invisible audio files in a hidden location on computer A. These Sampler instruments may work on computer A, but certainly won't on computer B. And trying to salvage these on computer A will be difficult since the used audio files are invisible (with a dot in front of the file names) so you either can't see them or break the Sampler instrument. In any case, much of the work you put into these Sampler instruments will be destroyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 Thanks, David. Yes...what you said at the very end. That's what I want to do. How would I back up a Logic Project on iCloud after saving it locally? Just drag and drop to your iCloud folder? Thanks, David. Worked perfectly. Not sure why I didn't think of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 I have tried working on a project in iCloud. It was an total train wreck, wouldn't recommend. What happens is this: You create a project in your iCloud folder on computer A and record into it. All closed files (finished recordings, closed project files) are uploaded to the Apple server. On computer B these files will download eventually (as quick as network bandwidth permits) and you can use them there. So all files are copied twice, through the internet. This can be quite slow, depending on your connection. Also, file locations in iCloud aren't what they seem. There is no visible folder 'iCloud' on your computer with your stuff in it. Instead, it's a hidden folder with cryptic names inside Library/Application Support. Now, MacOS normally handles this for you in the background so you don't even notice, but if you are building and saving Sampler instruments to iCloud, the paths to the samples, which are written into the instrument, will end up pointing to invisible audio files in a hidden location on computer A. These Sampler instruments may work on computer A, but certainly won't on computer B. And trying to salvage these on computer A will be difficult since the used audio files are invisible (with a dot in front of the file names) so you either can't see them or break the Sampler instrument. In any case, much of the work you put into these Sampler instruments will be destroyed. Interesting. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 You're welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejk Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Hello, All that I have read about sharing a Logic Pro project between two Macs seems to me uselessly complicated. I do it with my daughter since around ten years easily. Just subscribe a free account on Dropbox and share a folder with your friend, or, if you’re the owner of the two (or more) Macs, set the same account on both. The file must be saved in this folder in local, but it will be synchronized in the cloud, so, when you start the other Mac, the project will appear exactly the same. The one thing you can’t do is to work simultaneously on the same file. You’ll get a conflict which will create two versions of the project. As far as I know, Dropbox is the only system which combines local and distant files, letting the choice to the user. So, your workflow isn’t impacted like it is with all other clouds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SideBMusic Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 Hello,All that I have read about sharing a Logic Pro project between two Macs seems to me uselessly complicated. I do it with my daughter since around ten years easily. Just subscribe a free account on Dropbox and share a folder with your friend, or, if you’re the owner of the two (or more) Macs, set the same account on both. The file must be saved in this folder in local, but it will be synchronized in the cloud, so, when you start the other Mac, the project will appear exactly the same. The one thing you can’t do is to work simultaneously on the same file. You’ll get a conflict which will create two versions of the project. As far as I know, Dropbox is the only system which combines local and distant files, letting the choice to the user. So, your workflow isn’t impacted like it is with all other clouds. I was going to mention Dropbox as well, especially if you are working with others on your project. iCloud is simpler if coordinating between your own computers. I don't know if working directly on the file in iCloud would have issues. You may want to look into that. For documents that require lots of content and processing power personally I would copy the document to my desktop, work on it, then copy it back to iCloud after the session. Seems safer that way; someone correct me if I am wrong. Making a copy before working would also keep a backup of the project on iCloud until you replace it with the current editing. And as I and others mentioned in another thread, it is recommended you backup your project files to an external disk. There is a recent thread about a project file becoming corrupt. Having a previous session to go back to is easier to accept than having to completely start over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facej Posted October 30, 2021 Share Posted October 30, 2021 NB dragging a file from the Desktop (or other folder) to the iCloud Drive does not copy it, it moves it. If you want a separate copy on the iCloud Drive you need to do an option-drag, or a Copy/Paste in the Finder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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