logness Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 The bus concept ist just an anakronism which emulates the disadvantages of old hardware consoles. Give us the freedom to directly route outputs/sends to other AUX-Inputs, like in all other major DAWs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 How would you grab one signal with more than one aux then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logness Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 via sends (which is also much more meaningful and flexible than routing something to bus 473) (but of course the bus-concept can still be maintained too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 So you would sacrifice two sends, of which are just eight per channel, to avoid using one of 127 busses which are there already ? That makes no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logness Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 The limit of 127 busses, or 8 sends is just an artificial design decision which the creators logic have chosen when the designed the logic mixer as an emulation of an ancient hardware console. This boundaries can be exceeded if the developers wants it. The GUI could be overworked that you have an instant and neat overview of how the channels are connected. In my proposal every-time you create a connection between an output/send and a AUX, a virtual bus is created. You don't have to give it a number, and remember it, you don't see it, because it's unimportant, its irrelevant, you only choose the destination. Let the DAW handle the difficulties. You never have to think about busses, and I'm pretty sure you will never miss them, once you get used to it. In my workflow, i just use a lot of nested groups, Overheads -> Drums -> Drum-Percussion Stem -> Output etc..., with busses this can get confusing very quickly. If this doesn't convince you, fine, my proposal was to extend the options, if you want still work with buses, fine, do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 24, 2019 Share Posted January 24, 2019 It's interesting to note that what you suggest is already the design used for the Output busses in Logic: you choose your output directly from the output slot, you don't choose a bus that is then routed to an Output channel strip. So the idea has merit. It does have its limits though as FuzzFilth pointed out: what if you want a routing scheme with 8 parallel Aux channel strips processing the audio on the same bus. It then makes much more sense to send to only one bus that all those Auxes can receive, than to have to use 8 sends for each track. Perhaps some form of hybrid solution could be found: direct Aux routing, AND still the possibility to use a bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
logness Posted January 24, 2019 Author Share Posted January 24, 2019 I agree 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sascha Franck Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 Perhaps some form of hybrid solution could be found: direct Aux routing, AND still the possibility to use a bus. There could as well be an environment for audio. Drag a cable, done. That could work absolutely fine without even touching the current concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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