Oder Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Since the "correct version" announced (10.6.2/10.6.3??) was looking to upgrade from 10.4.7 but needed a new computer, so as im finally about to get one very soon come to this thread only to find out this problem still persists? What are the realistic solutions to have the sidechain working? and what is the best Logic version to use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansolas Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 What are the realistic solutions to have the sidechain working? My tactic is to just use Zero Latency Plugins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oder Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 What are the realistic solutions to have the sidechain working? My tactic is to just use Zero Latency Plugins That is mission impossible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansolas Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 My tactic is to just use Zero Latency Plugins That is mission impossible Luckily for me it is possible. I dislike using plugins with latency anyways since I prefer top be able to play along anytime. I wish any plugin would be zero latency :/ Except for the master channel, but there latency won't break the PDC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mclight Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Live playback of all other tracks are now behave as expected! Once I remove the Sidechain Input it get's broken as in the previous videos I showed. Now I'm confused. Isn't that the other way round as it used to be? Since some time I struggle with input delays in my general template when playing any midi instrument (that is: I hit a key on the keyboard and (too many) ms later I hear the sound). In this template I've got one track set up with a Logic compressor side-chained to a kick of a ghost track (= sidechain input of the compressor is set to the bus delivering the ghost kick). If I want to get rid of the delay while playing on my keyboard I either have to set the sidechain in the compressor to "Internal" or I engange the Low-Latency-Mode. But when reading your post I get the impression you HAVE to set the compressor sidechain to the bus in order to have no delay?!? But my real question is: would moving to Logic 10.7 improve my situation or even worsen it? For me this problem is a real issue. I didn't have these delays until lately and I find myself fantasizing about switching to Ableton Live (which is my secondary DAW right now) although I'm so much more fluent in Logic. But these delays drive me crazy and I don't see how to produce and mix without using sidechains ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansolas Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Earlier I wrote it is only broken for live played instruments which is wrong: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 here another example: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Earlier I wrote it is only broken for live played instruments which is wrong: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 here another example: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 here another example: What version of Logic are you using? latest Earlier I wrote it is only broken for live played instruments which is wrong: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Earlier I wrote it is only broken for live played instruments which is wrong: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I'm trying to replicate this in an empty project in 10.6.3 using the same plugins, but I can't. The audio only drifts if I haven't clicked 'Apply' Optimal Lookahead. What are your settings on the Ad Limiter? I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 This happens to me sometimes in 10.6.3, but when I press stop and play again, it rectifies itself. I'm trying to replicate it in an empty project now, but the delay compensation is actually working properly here in this project. What version of Logic are you using? I think it’s time for a separate post-10.6.3 thread on this because I’ve tried some of ansolas’s cases as well and many of them work as expected. Stopping and restarting is required when cycles are used but that is normal behavior considering the way Logic handles buffering cycle audio. Are you using 10.6.3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. What is unclear in my previous answer: As I said, I choose the highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. What is unclear in my previous answer: As I said, I choose the highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin OK, so in other words, it's actually worse in 10.7 than 10.6.3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 @AMD I’m in 10.6.3. As far as I can tell the issues mentioned in the first ~10 pages of this thread appear to be fixed. @Ansolas I’m pretty sure this is happening during playback because you’re in cycle mode and bypassing/engaging the plugin while it’s playing. What happens when you turn it on, press stop then play again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 @AMD I’m in 10.6.3. As far as I can tell the issues mentioned in the first ~10 pages of this thread appear to be fixed. @Ansolas I’m pretty sure this is happening during playback because you’re in cycle mode and bypassing/engaging the plugin while it’s playing. What happens when you turn it on, press stop then play again? It happens 'somtimes' even in playback mode, even without cycle. PDC doen't work at all with liuv played instruments. here an example where PDC doent work at all, even on playback : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. What happens when you make those changes and then press stop and play again? I still think your issue should be put in a separate thread because it's unrelated to the first 10 pages of issues and there's a chance most of it might still be down to troubleshooting. I'm doing similar things with the same plugins and they work as expected... Also, you may want to read the last responses to this thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=159747&hilit=cycle+time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. You read what i wrote above ? even in playback mode, even without cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. You read what i wrote above ? even in playback mode, even without cycle. I'm talking about the video you posted as an "example." Good luck with your issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Good luck with your issues. These are not my issues, these are Logic's issue. I'm talking about the video you posted as an "example." And I told you that this also happen when I disable cycle, even in the "example" I posted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 4 weeks later... ansolas Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) Live PDC works when selecting any sidechaininput for example on Alchemy when having a high latency plugin on its channel Edited January 1, 2022 by ansolas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 3 weeks later... ansolas Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Here someone on facebook also reports the pdc/sidechain bug: https://www.facebook.com/groups/applelpxtech/posts/4801467409913832/ @admin: I hope it is ok to post an external link here, if not just remove the post , cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 4 weeks later... ansolas Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Here and yet again: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 2 weeks later... sunbrother Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Here and yet again: I couldn't reproduce your other issues but I can reproduce this one (even with starting and stopping to reset the cycle mode). I still think a separate thread could help but basically it looks like all the stuff they did past 10.6.1 to fix the bus side chain latency compensation issues (from earlier in the thread) broke it for single tracks. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Here and yet again: I couldn't reproduce your other issues but I can reproduce this one (even with starting and stopping to reset the cycle mode). I still think a separate thread could help but basically it looks like all the stuff they did past 10.6.1 to fix the bus side chain latency compensation issues (from earlier in the thread) broke it for single tracks. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138 Thank you for the reply and reproducing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 1 month later... sunbrother Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 The issues they introduced with single tracks are still present in 10.7.3 viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138&p=856661#p856478 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 2 weeks later... matchewy Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I've been using logic for over 10 years now. I'm afraid that it's time for me to move on. Looking at Abelton or Bitwig. I find myself spending a lot of time troubling shooting rather than creating music. Granted I'm doing some pretty complex stuff. Logic just doesn't seem to want to do adapt to cutting edge production and mixing paradigms. Things that are absolutely driving me nuts: 1. No support for nested summing folders. And this ties into the thread's subject of delay companions. One can technically set up nested audio busses. This is absolutely critical for gain staging in EDM and is where the art form is heading. The PDC is all over the place is hierarchical aux/bus structures. Add to that any side chain one might use (ex. for ducking) and it's a phasing nightmare. Bitwig is doing all of this with ease. Off topic but... 2. No support for any sort of rack style plugin packs like abelton. This is super helpful for parallel processing audio within a plugin chain and having simultaneous wet/dry control. Logic is at a huge disadvantage here. 3. Can't have a single instance of a midi effect (like an LFO) sharing multiple destinations. I could go on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Prev 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Next Page 10 of 12 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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ansolas Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 here another example: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Earlier I wrote it is only broken for live played instruments which is wrong: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 here another example: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 here another example: What version of Logic are you using? latest Earlier I wrote it is only broken for live played instruments which is wrong: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Earlier I wrote it is only broken for live played instruments which is wrong: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I'm trying to replicate this in an empty project in 10.6.3 using the same plugins, but I can't. The audio only drifts if I haven't clicked 'Apply' Optimal Lookahead. What are your settings on the Ad Limiter? I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 This happens to me sometimes in 10.6.3, but when I press stop and play again, it rectifies itself. I'm trying to replicate it in an empty project now, but the delay compensation is actually working properly here in this project. What version of Logic are you using? I think it’s time for a separate post-10.6.3 thread on this because I’ve tried some of ansolas’s cases as well and many of them work as expected. Stopping and restarting is required when cycles are used but that is normal behavior considering the way Logic handles buffering cycle audio. Are you using 10.6.3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. What is unclear in my previous answer: As I said, I choose the highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. What is unclear in my previous answer: As I said, I choose the highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin OK, so in other words, it's actually worse in 10.7 than 10.6.3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 @AMD I’m in 10.6.3. As far as I can tell the issues mentioned in the first ~10 pages of this thread appear to be fixed. @Ansolas I’m pretty sure this is happening during playback because you’re in cycle mode and bypassing/engaging the plugin while it’s playing. What happens when you turn it on, press stop then play again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 @AMD I’m in 10.6.3. As far as I can tell the issues mentioned in the first ~10 pages of this thread appear to be fixed. @Ansolas I’m pretty sure this is happening during playback because you’re in cycle mode and bypassing/engaging the plugin while it’s playing. What happens when you turn it on, press stop then play again? It happens 'somtimes' even in playback mode, even without cycle. PDC doen't work at all with liuv played instruments. here an example where PDC doent work at all, even on playback : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. What happens when you make those changes and then press stop and play again? I still think your issue should be put in a separate thread because it's unrelated to the first 10 pages of issues and there's a chance most of it might still be down to troubleshooting. I'm doing similar things with the same plugins and they work as expected... Also, you may want to read the last responses to this thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=159747&hilit=cycle+time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. You read what i wrote above ? even in playback mode, even without cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. You read what i wrote above ? even in playback mode, even without cycle. I'm talking about the video you posted as an "example." Good luck with your issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Good luck with your issues. These are not my issues, these are Logic's issue. I'm talking about the video you posted as an "example." And I told you that this also happen when I disable cycle, even in the "example" I posted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 4 weeks later... ansolas Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) Live PDC works when selecting any sidechaininput for example on Alchemy when having a high latency plugin on its channel Edited January 1, 2022 by ansolas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 3 weeks later... ansolas Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Here someone on facebook also reports the pdc/sidechain bug: https://www.facebook.com/groups/applelpxtech/posts/4801467409913832/ @admin: I hope it is ok to post an external link here, if not just remove the post , cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 4 weeks later... ansolas Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Here and yet again: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 2 weeks later... sunbrother Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Here and yet again: I couldn't reproduce your other issues but I can reproduce this one (even with starting and stopping to reset the cycle mode). I still think a separate thread could help but basically it looks like all the stuff they did past 10.6.1 to fix the bus side chain latency compensation issues (from earlier in the thread) broke it for single tracks. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Here and yet again: I couldn't reproduce your other issues but I can reproduce this one (even with starting and stopping to reset the cycle mode). I still think a separate thread could help but basically it looks like all the stuff they did past 10.6.1 to fix the bus side chain latency compensation issues (from earlier in the thread) broke it for single tracks. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138 Thank you for the reply and reproducing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 1 month later... sunbrother Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 The issues they introduced with single tracks are still present in 10.7.3 viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138&p=856661#p856478 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 2 weeks later... matchewy Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I've been using logic for over 10 years now. I'm afraid that it's time for me to move on. Looking at Abelton or Bitwig. I find myself spending a lot of time troubling shooting rather than creating music. Granted I'm doing some pretty complex stuff. Logic just doesn't seem to want to do adapt to cutting edge production and mixing paradigms. Things that are absolutely driving me nuts: 1. No support for nested summing folders. And this ties into the thread's subject of delay companions. One can technically set up nested audio busses. This is absolutely critical for gain staging in EDM and is where the art form is heading. The PDC is all over the place is hierarchical aux/bus structures. Add to that any side chain one might use (ex. for ducking) and it's a phasing nightmare. Bitwig is doing all of this with ease. Off topic but... 2. No support for any sort of rack style plugin packs like abelton. This is super helpful for parallel processing audio within a plugin chain and having simultaneous wet/dry control. Logic is at a huge disadvantage here. 3. Can't have a single instance of a midi effect (like an LFO) sharing multiple destinations. I could go on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Prev 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Next Page 10 of 12 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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By melodea, March 4 latency 12 replies 220 views Jordi Torres March 5 Latency on OH in Logic Drummer By Kanten, February 6 latency drummer 5 replies 270 views Atlas007 February 8 Sidechain Latency on a Bus Latency Problem still in 2022? By testdriver85, May 30, 2022 sidechain latency 13 replies 3,886 views musikmike January 24 All Activity Home Forums Music Software Bugs & Workarounds Plug-in Delay Compensation broken with external side-chain × Existing user? Sign In Sign Up Home Forums Back Forums Unanswered Topics All Activity Leaderboard Search Our Picks Articles Logic Pro Class Back Logic Pro Class Student Testimonials FAQ Book Back Book in English Livre en Français About Back About Privacy Policy Terms of Service × Create New...
AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Earlier I wrote it is only broken for live played instruments which is wrong: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 here another example: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 here another example: What version of Logic are you using? latest Earlier I wrote it is only broken for live played instruments which is wrong: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Earlier I wrote it is only broken for live played instruments which is wrong: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I'm trying to replicate this in an empty project in 10.6.3 using the same plugins, but I can't. The audio only drifts if I haven't clicked 'Apply' Optimal Lookahead. What are your settings on the Ad Limiter? I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 This happens to me sometimes in 10.6.3, but when I press stop and play again, it rectifies itself. I'm trying to replicate it in an empty project now, but the delay compensation is actually working properly here in this project. What version of Logic are you using? I think it’s time for a separate post-10.6.3 thread on this because I’ve tried some of ansolas’s cases as well and many of them work as expected. Stopping and restarting is required when cycles are used but that is normal behavior considering the way Logic handles buffering cycle audio. Are you using 10.6.3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. What is unclear in my previous answer: As I said, I choose the highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. What is unclear in my previous answer: As I said, I choose the highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin OK, so in other words, it's actually worse in 10.7 than 10.6.3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 @AMD I’m in 10.6.3. As far as I can tell the issues mentioned in the first ~10 pages of this thread appear to be fixed. @Ansolas I’m pretty sure this is happening during playback because you’re in cycle mode and bypassing/engaging the plugin while it’s playing. What happens when you turn it on, press stop then play again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 @AMD I’m in 10.6.3. As far as I can tell the issues mentioned in the first ~10 pages of this thread appear to be fixed. @Ansolas I’m pretty sure this is happening during playback because you’re in cycle mode and bypassing/engaging the plugin while it’s playing. What happens when you turn it on, press stop then play again? It happens 'somtimes' even in playback mode, even without cycle. PDC doen't work at all with liuv played instruments. here an example where PDC doent work at all, even on playback : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. What happens when you make those changes and then press stop and play again? I still think your issue should be put in a separate thread because it's unrelated to the first 10 pages of issues and there's a chance most of it might still be down to troubleshooting. I'm doing similar things with the same plugins and they work as expected... Also, you may want to read the last responses to this thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=159747&hilit=cycle+time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. You read what i wrote above ? even in playback mode, even without cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. You read what i wrote above ? even in playback mode, even without cycle. I'm talking about the video you posted as an "example." Good luck with your issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Good luck with your issues. These are not my issues, these are Logic's issue. I'm talking about the video you posted as an "example." And I told you that this also happen when I disable cycle, even in the "example" I posted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 4 weeks later... ansolas Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) Live PDC works when selecting any sidechaininput for example on Alchemy when having a high latency plugin on its channel Edited January 1, 2022 by ansolas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 3 weeks later... ansolas Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Here someone on facebook also reports the pdc/sidechain bug: https://www.facebook.com/groups/applelpxtech/posts/4801467409913832/ @admin: I hope it is ok to post an external link here, if not just remove the post , cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 4 weeks later... ansolas Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Here and yet again: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 2 weeks later... sunbrother Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Here and yet again: I couldn't reproduce your other issues but I can reproduce this one (even with starting and stopping to reset the cycle mode). I still think a separate thread could help but basically it looks like all the stuff they did past 10.6.1 to fix the bus side chain latency compensation issues (from earlier in the thread) broke it for single tracks. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Here and yet again: I couldn't reproduce your other issues but I can reproduce this one (even with starting and stopping to reset the cycle mode). I still think a separate thread could help but basically it looks like all the stuff they did past 10.6.1 to fix the bus side chain latency compensation issues (from earlier in the thread) broke it for single tracks. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138 Thank you for the reply and reproducing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 1 month later... sunbrother Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 The issues they introduced with single tracks are still present in 10.7.3 viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138&p=856661#p856478 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 2 weeks later... matchewy Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I've been using logic for over 10 years now. I'm afraid that it's time for me to move on. Looking at Abelton or Bitwig. I find myself spending a lot of time troubling shooting rather than creating music. Granted I'm doing some pretty complex stuff. Logic just doesn't seem to want to do adapt to cutting edge production and mixing paradigms. Things that are absolutely driving me nuts: 1. No support for nested summing folders. And this ties into the thread's subject of delay companions. One can technically set up nested audio busses. This is absolutely critical for gain staging in EDM and is where the art form is heading. The PDC is all over the place is hierarchical aux/bus structures. Add to that any side chain one might use (ex. for ducking) and it's a phasing nightmare. Bitwig is doing all of this with ease. Off topic but... 2. No support for any sort of rack style plugin packs like abelton. This is super helpful for parallel processing audio within a plugin chain and having simultaneous wet/dry control. Logic is at a huge disadvantage here. 3. Can't have a single instance of a midi effect (like an LFO) sharing multiple destinations. I could go on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Prev 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Next Page 10 of 12 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 here another example: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 here another example: What version of Logic are you using? latest Earlier I wrote it is only broken for live played instruments which is wrong: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Earlier I wrote it is only broken for live played instruments which is wrong: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I'm trying to replicate this in an empty project in 10.6.3 using the same plugins, but I can't. The audio only drifts if I haven't clicked 'Apply' Optimal Lookahead. What are your settings on the Ad Limiter? I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 This happens to me sometimes in 10.6.3, but when I press stop and play again, it rectifies itself. I'm trying to replicate it in an empty project now, but the delay compensation is actually working properly here in this project. What version of Logic are you using? I think it’s time for a separate post-10.6.3 thread on this because I’ve tried some of ansolas’s cases as well and many of them work as expected. Stopping and restarting is required when cycles are used but that is normal behavior considering the way Logic handles buffering cycle audio. Are you using 10.6.3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. What is unclear in my previous answer: As I said, I choose the highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. What is unclear in my previous answer: As I said, I choose the highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin OK, so in other words, it's actually worse in 10.7 than 10.6.3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 @AMD I’m in 10.6.3. As far as I can tell the issues mentioned in the first ~10 pages of this thread appear to be fixed. @Ansolas I’m pretty sure this is happening during playback because you’re in cycle mode and bypassing/engaging the plugin while it’s playing. What happens when you turn it on, press stop then play again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 @AMD I’m in 10.6.3. As far as I can tell the issues mentioned in the first ~10 pages of this thread appear to be fixed. @Ansolas I’m pretty sure this is happening during playback because you’re in cycle mode and bypassing/engaging the plugin while it’s playing. What happens when you turn it on, press stop then play again? It happens 'somtimes' even in playback mode, even without cycle. PDC doen't work at all with liuv played instruments. here an example where PDC doent work at all, even on playback : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. What happens when you make those changes and then press stop and play again? I still think your issue should be put in a separate thread because it's unrelated to the first 10 pages of issues and there's a chance most of it might still be down to troubleshooting. I'm doing similar things with the same plugins and they work as expected... Also, you may want to read the last responses to this thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=159747&hilit=cycle+time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. You read what i wrote above ? even in playback mode, even without cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. You read what i wrote above ? even in playback mode, even without cycle. I'm talking about the video you posted as an "example." Good luck with your issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Good luck with your issues. These are not my issues, these are Logic's issue. I'm talking about the video you posted as an "example." And I told you that this also happen when I disable cycle, even in the "example" I posted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 4 weeks later... ansolas Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) Live PDC works when selecting any sidechaininput for example on Alchemy when having a high latency plugin on its channel Edited January 1, 2022 by ansolas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 3 weeks later... ansolas Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Here someone on facebook also reports the pdc/sidechain bug: https://www.facebook.com/groups/applelpxtech/posts/4801467409913832/ @admin: I hope it is ok to post an external link here, if not just remove the post , cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 4 weeks later... ansolas Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Here and yet again: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 2 weeks later... sunbrother Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Here and yet again: I couldn't reproduce your other issues but I can reproduce this one (even with starting and stopping to reset the cycle mode). I still think a separate thread could help but basically it looks like all the stuff they did past 10.6.1 to fix the bus side chain latency compensation issues (from earlier in the thread) broke it for single tracks. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Here and yet again: I couldn't reproduce your other issues but I can reproduce this one (even with starting and stopping to reset the cycle mode). I still think a separate thread could help but basically it looks like all the stuff they did past 10.6.1 to fix the bus side chain latency compensation issues (from earlier in the thread) broke it for single tracks. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138 Thank you for the reply and reproducing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 1 month later... sunbrother Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 The issues they introduced with single tracks are still present in 10.7.3 viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138&p=856661#p856478 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 2 weeks later... matchewy Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I've been using logic for over 10 years now. I'm afraid that it's time for me to move on. Looking at Abelton or Bitwig. I find myself spending a lot of time troubling shooting rather than creating music. Granted I'm doing some pretty complex stuff. Logic just doesn't seem to want to do adapt to cutting edge production and mixing paradigms. Things that are absolutely driving me nuts: 1. No support for nested summing folders. And this ties into the thread's subject of delay companions. One can technically set up nested audio busses. This is absolutely critical for gain staging in EDM and is where the art form is heading. The PDC is all over the place is hierarchical aux/bus structures. Add to that any side chain one might use (ex. for ducking) and it's a phasing nightmare. Bitwig is doing all of this with ease. Off topic but... 2. No support for any sort of rack style plugin packs like abelton. This is super helpful for parallel processing audio within a plugin chain and having simultaneous wet/dry control. Logic is at a huge disadvantage here. 3. Can't have a single instance of a midi effect (like an LFO) sharing multiple destinations. I could go on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Prev 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Next Page 10 of 12 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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By melodea, March 4 latency 12 replies 220 views Jordi Torres March 5 Latency on OH in Logic Drummer By Kanten, February 6 latency drummer 5 replies 270 views Atlas007 February 8 Sidechain Latency on a Bus Latency Problem still in 2022? By testdriver85, May 30, 2022 sidechain latency 13 replies 3,886 views musikmike January 24 All Activity Home Forums Music Software Bugs & Workarounds Plug-in Delay Compensation broken with external side-chain × Existing user? Sign In Sign Up Home Forums Back Forums Unanswered Topics All Activity Leaderboard Search Our Picks Articles Logic Pro Class Back Logic Pro Class Student Testimonials FAQ Book Back Book in English Livre en Français About Back About Privacy Policy Terms of Service × Create New...
ansolas Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 here another example: What version of Logic are you using? latest Earlier I wrote it is only broken for live played instruments which is wrong: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Earlier I wrote it is only broken for live played instruments which is wrong: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I'm trying to replicate this in an empty project in 10.6.3 using the same plugins, but I can't. The audio only drifts if I haven't clicked 'Apply' Optimal Lookahead. What are your settings on the Ad Limiter? I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 This happens to me sometimes in 10.6.3, but when I press stop and play again, it rectifies itself. I'm trying to replicate it in an empty project now, but the delay compensation is actually working properly here in this project. What version of Logic are you using? I think it’s time for a separate post-10.6.3 thread on this because I’ve tried some of ansolas’s cases as well and many of them work as expected. Stopping and restarting is required when cycles are used but that is normal behavior considering the way Logic handles buffering cycle audio. Are you using 10.6.3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. What is unclear in my previous answer: As I said, I choose the highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. What is unclear in my previous answer: As I said, I choose the highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin OK, so in other words, it's actually worse in 10.7 than 10.6.3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 @AMD I’m in 10.6.3. As far as I can tell the issues mentioned in the first ~10 pages of this thread appear to be fixed. @Ansolas I’m pretty sure this is happening during playback because you’re in cycle mode and bypassing/engaging the plugin while it’s playing. What happens when you turn it on, press stop then play again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 @AMD I’m in 10.6.3. As far as I can tell the issues mentioned in the first ~10 pages of this thread appear to be fixed. @Ansolas I’m pretty sure this is happening during playback because you’re in cycle mode and bypassing/engaging the plugin while it’s playing. What happens when you turn it on, press stop then play again? It happens 'somtimes' even in playback mode, even without cycle. PDC doen't work at all with liuv played instruments. here an example where PDC doent work at all, even on playback : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. What happens when you make those changes and then press stop and play again? I still think your issue should be put in a separate thread because it's unrelated to the first 10 pages of issues and there's a chance most of it might still be down to troubleshooting. I'm doing similar things with the same plugins and they work as expected... Also, you may want to read the last responses to this thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=159747&hilit=cycle+time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. You read what i wrote above ? even in playback mode, even without cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. You read what i wrote above ? even in playback mode, even without cycle. I'm talking about the video you posted as an "example." Good luck with your issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Good luck with your issues. These are not my issues, these are Logic's issue. I'm talking about the video you posted as an "example." And I told you that this also happen when I disable cycle, even in the "example" I posted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 4 weeks later... ansolas Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) Live PDC works when selecting any sidechaininput for example on Alchemy when having a high latency plugin on its channel Edited January 1, 2022 by ansolas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 3 weeks later... ansolas Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Here someone on facebook also reports the pdc/sidechain bug: https://www.facebook.com/groups/applelpxtech/posts/4801467409913832/ @admin: I hope it is ok to post an external link here, if not just remove the post , cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 4 weeks later... ansolas Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Here and yet again: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 2 weeks later... sunbrother Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Here and yet again: I couldn't reproduce your other issues but I can reproduce this one (even with starting and stopping to reset the cycle mode). I still think a separate thread could help but basically it looks like all the stuff they did past 10.6.1 to fix the bus side chain latency compensation issues (from earlier in the thread) broke it for single tracks. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Here and yet again: I couldn't reproduce your other issues but I can reproduce this one (even with starting and stopping to reset the cycle mode). I still think a separate thread could help but basically it looks like all the stuff they did past 10.6.1 to fix the bus side chain latency compensation issues (from earlier in the thread) broke it for single tracks. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138 Thank you for the reply and reproducing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 1 month later... sunbrother Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 The issues they introduced with single tracks are still present in 10.7.3 viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138&p=856661#p856478 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 2 weeks later... matchewy Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I've been using logic for over 10 years now. I'm afraid that it's time for me to move on. Looking at Abelton or Bitwig. I find myself spending a lot of time troubling shooting rather than creating music. Granted I'm doing some pretty complex stuff. Logic just doesn't seem to want to do adapt to cutting edge production and mixing paradigms. Things that are absolutely driving me nuts: 1. No support for nested summing folders. And this ties into the thread's subject of delay companions. One can technically set up nested audio busses. This is absolutely critical for gain staging in EDM and is where the art form is heading. The PDC is all over the place is hierarchical aux/bus structures. Add to that any side chain one might use (ex. for ducking) and it's a phasing nightmare. Bitwig is doing all of this with ease. Off topic but... 2. No support for any sort of rack style plugin packs like abelton. This is super helpful for parallel processing audio within a plugin chain and having simultaneous wet/dry control. Logic is at a huge disadvantage here. 3. Can't have a single instance of a midi effect (like an LFO) sharing multiple destinations. I could go on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Prev 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Next Page 10 of 12 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Restore formatting Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply Share More sharing options... Followers 14 Go to topic listing Related Topics Quick Help - Inspector Pane View - and Plugin Latency Values By tmuzik, August 16, 2020 latency 4 replies 840 views exmachina April 4 Latency delay on armed track Mact Studio M2 Ultra/ UAD Apollo X4 By blvckneon, March 28 uad apollo mac studio (and 2 more) Tagged with: uad apollo mac studio m2 latency 3 replies 133 views JakobP March 29 Heavy Latency on Drummer Track in a session from last year! Help pls. By melodea, March 4 latency 12 replies 220 views Jordi Torres March 5 Latency on OH in Logic Drummer By Kanten, February 6 latency drummer 5 replies 270 views Atlas007 February 8 Sidechain Latency on a Bus Latency Problem still in 2022? By testdriver85, May 30, 2022 sidechain latency 13 replies 3,886 views musikmike January 24 All Activity Home Forums Music Software Bugs & Workarounds Plug-in Delay Compensation broken with external side-chain × Existing user? Sign In Sign Up Home Forums Back Forums Unanswered Topics All Activity Leaderboard Search Our Picks Articles Logic Pro Class Back Logic Pro Class Student Testimonials FAQ Book Back Book in English Livre en Français About Back About Privacy Policy Terms of Service × Create New...
sunbrother Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Earlier I wrote it is only broken for live played instruments which is wrong: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I'm trying to replicate this in an empty project in 10.6.3 using the same plugins, but I can't. The audio only drifts if I haven't clicked 'Apply' Optimal Lookahead. What are your settings on the Ad Limiter? I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 This happens to me sometimes in 10.6.3, but when I press stop and play again, it rectifies itself. I'm trying to replicate it in an empty project now, but the delay compensation is actually working properly here in this project. What version of Logic are you using? I think it’s time for a separate post-10.6.3 thread on this because I’ve tried some of ansolas’s cases as well and many of them work as expected. Stopping and restarting is required when cycles are used but that is normal behavior considering the way Logic handles buffering cycle audio. Are you using 10.6.3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. What is unclear in my previous answer: As I said, I choose the highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... AMD Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. What is unclear in my previous answer: As I said, I choose the highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin OK, so in other words, it's actually worse in 10.7 than 10.6.3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 @AMD I’m in 10.6.3. As far as I can tell the issues mentioned in the first ~10 pages of this thread appear to be fixed. @Ansolas I’m pretty sure this is happening during playback because you’re in cycle mode and bypassing/engaging the plugin while it’s playing. What happens when you turn it on, press stop then play again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 @AMD I’m in 10.6.3. As far as I can tell the issues mentioned in the first ~10 pages of this thread appear to be fixed. @Ansolas I’m pretty sure this is happening during playback because you’re in cycle mode and bypassing/engaging the plugin while it’s playing. What happens when you turn it on, press stop then play again? It happens 'somtimes' even in playback mode, even without cycle. PDC doen't work at all with liuv played instruments. here an example where PDC doent work at all, even on playback : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. What happens when you make those changes and then press stop and play again? I still think your issue should be put in a separate thread because it's unrelated to the first 10 pages of issues and there's a chance most of it might still be down to troubleshooting. I'm doing similar things with the same plugins and they work as expected... Also, you may want to read the last responses to this thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=159747&hilit=cycle+time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. You read what i wrote above ? even in playback mode, even without cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. You read what i wrote above ? even in playback mode, even without cycle. I'm talking about the video you posted as an "example." Good luck with your issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Good luck with your issues. These are not my issues, these are Logic's issue. I'm talking about the video you posted as an "example." And I told you that this also happen when I disable cycle, even in the "example" I posted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 4 weeks later... ansolas Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) Live PDC works when selecting any sidechaininput for example on Alchemy when having a high latency plugin on its channel Edited January 1, 2022 by ansolas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 3 weeks later... ansolas Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Here someone on facebook also reports the pdc/sidechain bug: https://www.facebook.com/groups/applelpxtech/posts/4801467409913832/ @admin: I hope it is ok to post an external link here, if not just remove the post , cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 4 weeks later... ansolas Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Here and yet again: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 2 weeks later... sunbrother Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Here and yet again: I couldn't reproduce your other issues but I can reproduce this one (even with starting and stopping to reset the cycle mode). I still think a separate thread could help but basically it looks like all the stuff they did past 10.6.1 to fix the bus side chain latency compensation issues (from earlier in the thread) broke it for single tracks. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Here and yet again: I couldn't reproduce your other issues but I can reproduce this one (even with starting and stopping to reset the cycle mode). I still think a separate thread could help but basically it looks like all the stuff they did past 10.6.1 to fix the bus side chain latency compensation issues (from earlier in the thread) broke it for single tracks. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138 Thank you for the reply and reproducing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 1 month later... sunbrother Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 The issues they introduced with single tracks are still present in 10.7.3 viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138&p=856661#p856478 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 2 weeks later... matchewy Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I've been using logic for over 10 years now. I'm afraid that it's time for me to move on. Looking at Abelton or Bitwig. I find myself spending a lot of time troubling shooting rather than creating music. Granted I'm doing some pretty complex stuff. Logic just doesn't seem to want to do adapt to cutting edge production and mixing paradigms. Things that are absolutely driving me nuts: 1. No support for nested summing folders. And this ties into the thread's subject of delay companions. One can technically set up nested audio busses. This is absolutely critical for gain staging in EDM and is where the art form is heading. The PDC is all over the place is hierarchical aux/bus structures. Add to that any side chain one might use (ex. for ducking) and it's a phasing nightmare. Bitwig is doing all of this with ease. Off topic but... 2. No support for any sort of rack style plugin packs like abelton. This is super helpful for parallel processing audio within a plugin chain and having simultaneous wet/dry control. Logic is at a huge disadvantage here. 3. Can't have a single instance of a midi effect (like an LFO) sharing multiple destinations. I could go on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Prev 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Next Page 10 of 12 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 I'm trying to replicate this in an empty project in 10.6.3 using the same plugins, but I can't. The audio only drifts if I haven't clicked 'Apply' Optimal Lookahead. What are your settings on the Ad Limiter? I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMD Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 This happens to me sometimes in 10.6.3, but when I press stop and play again, it rectifies itself. I'm trying to replicate it in an empty project now, but the delay compensation is actually working properly here in this project. What version of Logic are you using? I think it’s time for a separate post-10.6.3 thread on this because I’ve tried some of ansolas’s cases as well and many of them work as expected. Stopping and restarting is required when cycles are used but that is normal behavior considering the way Logic handles buffering cycle audio. Are you using 10.6.3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansolas Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMD Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I set it to 200 ms look ahead to make the behaviour most obvious. If I set my lookahead to anything other than the optimal setting, the same thing happens as in your video, but it's meant to set it to the optimal amount, not 200ms? As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansolas Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 As I said, I choose teh highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. What is unclear in my previous answer: As I said, I choose the highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMD Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I don't understand why you would you choose a lookahead higher than the optimal amount? The optimal amount is there for a reason. If I choose I higher amount, then I have the same problem as you do in your video. What is unclear in my previous answer: As I said, I choose the highest amount to make it better audible, nevertheless it also happens with any set latency with any plugin OK, so in other words, it's actually worse in 10.7 than 10.6.3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 @AMD I’m in 10.6.3. As far as I can tell the issues mentioned in the first ~10 pages of this thread appear to be fixed. @Ansolas I’m pretty sure this is happening during playback because you’re in cycle mode and bypassing/engaging the plugin while it’s playing. What happens when you turn it on, press stop then play again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 @AMD I’m in 10.6.3. As far as I can tell the issues mentioned in the first ~10 pages of this thread appear to be fixed. @Ansolas I’m pretty sure this is happening during playback because you’re in cycle mode and bypassing/engaging the plugin while it’s playing. What happens when you turn it on, press stop then play again? It happens 'somtimes' even in playback mode, even without cycle. PDC doen't work at all with liuv played instruments. here an example where PDC doent work at all, even on playback : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. What happens when you make those changes and then press stop and play again? I still think your issue should be put in a separate thread because it's unrelated to the first 10 pages of issues and there's a chance most of it might still be down to troubleshooting. I'm doing similar things with the same plugins and they work as expected... Also, you may want to read the last responses to this thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=159747&hilit=cycle+time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. You read what i wrote above ? even in playback mode, even without cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. You read what i wrote above ? even in playback mode, even without cycle. I'm talking about the video you posted as an "example." Good luck with your issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Good luck with your issues. These are not my issues, these are Logic's issue. I'm talking about the video you posted as an "example." And I told you that this also happen when I disable cycle, even in the "example" I posted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 4 weeks later... ansolas Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) Live PDC works when selecting any sidechaininput for example on Alchemy when having a high latency plugin on its channel Edited January 1, 2022 by ansolas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 3 weeks later... ansolas Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Here someone on facebook also reports the pdc/sidechain bug: https://www.facebook.com/groups/applelpxtech/posts/4801467409913832/ @admin: I hope it is ok to post an external link here, if not just remove the post , cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 4 weeks later... ansolas Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Here and yet again: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 2 weeks later... sunbrother Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Here and yet again: I couldn't reproduce your other issues but I can reproduce this one (even with starting and stopping to reset the cycle mode). I still think a separate thread could help but basically it looks like all the stuff they did past 10.6.1 to fix the bus side chain latency compensation issues (from earlier in the thread) broke it for single tracks. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... ansolas Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Here and yet again: I couldn't reproduce your other issues but I can reproduce this one (even with starting and stopping to reset the cycle mode). I still think a separate thread could help but basically it looks like all the stuff they did past 10.6.1 to fix the bus side chain latency compensation issues (from earlier in the thread) broke it for single tracks. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138 Thank you for the reply and reproducing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 1 month later... sunbrother Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 The issues they introduced with single tracks are still present in 10.7.3 viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138&p=856661#p856478 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... 2 weeks later... matchewy Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I've been using logic for over 10 years now. I'm afraid that it's time for me to move on. Looking at Abelton or Bitwig. I find myself spending a lot of time troubling shooting rather than creating music. Granted I'm doing some pretty complex stuff. Logic just doesn't seem to want to do adapt to cutting edge production and mixing paradigms. Things that are absolutely driving me nuts: 1. No support for nested summing folders. And this ties into the thread's subject of delay companions. One can technically set up nested audio busses. This is absolutely critical for gain staging in EDM and is where the art form is heading. The PDC is all over the place is hierarchical aux/bus structures. Add to that any side chain one might use (ex. for ducking) and it's a phasing nightmare. Bitwig is doing all of this with ease. Off topic but... 2. No support for any sort of rack style plugin packs like abelton. This is super helpful for parallel processing audio within a plugin chain and having simultaneous wet/dry control. Logic is at a huge disadvantage here. 3. Can't have a single instance of a midi effect (like an LFO) sharing multiple destinations. I could go on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Prev 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 Next Page 10 of 12 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. 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By melodea, March 4 latency 12 replies 220 views Jordi Torres March 5 Latency on OH in Logic Drummer By Kanten, February 6 latency drummer 5 replies 270 views Atlas007 February 8 Sidechain Latency on a Bus Latency Problem still in 2022? By testdriver85, May 30, 2022 sidechain latency 13 replies 3,886 views musikmike January 24
sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. What happens when you make those changes and then press stop and play again? I still think your issue should be put in a separate thread because it's unrelated to the first 10 pages of issues and there's a chance most of it might still be down to troubleshooting. I'm doing similar things with the same plugins and they work as expected... Also, you may want to read the last responses to this thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=159747&hilit=cycle+time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. You read what i wrote above ? even in playback mode, even without cycle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunbrother Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 You just posted yourself doing the same thing as your last video, in Cycle Mode. You read what i wrote above ? even in playback mode, even without cycle. I'm talking about the video you posted as an "example." Good luck with your issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansolas Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Good luck with your issues. These are not my issues, these are Logic's issue. I'm talking about the video you posted as an "example." And I told you that this also happen when I disable cycle, even in the "example" I posted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansolas Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) Live PDC works when selecting any sidechaininput for example on Alchemy when having a high latency plugin on its channel Edited January 1, 2022 by ansolas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansolas Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 Here someone on facebook also reports the pdc/sidechain bug: https://www.facebook.com/groups/applelpxtech/posts/4801467409913832/ @admin: I hope it is ok to post an external link here, if not just remove the post , cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansolas Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 Here and yet again: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunbrother Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Here and yet again: I couldn't reproduce your other issues but I can reproduce this one (even with starting and stopping to reset the cycle mode). I still think a separate thread could help but basically it looks like all the stuff they did past 10.6.1 to fix the bus side chain latency compensation issues (from earlier in the thread) broke it for single tracks. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ansolas Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Here and yet again: I couldn't reproduce your other issues but I can reproduce this one (even with starting and stopping to reset the cycle mode). I still think a separate thread could help but basically it looks like all the stuff they did past 10.6.1 to fix the bus side chain latency compensation issues (from earlier in the thread) broke it for single tracks. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138 Thank you for the reply and reproducing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunbrother Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 The issues they introduced with single tracks are still present in 10.7.3 viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161138&p=856661#p856478 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matchewy Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I've been using logic for over 10 years now. I'm afraid that it's time for me to move on. Looking at Abelton or Bitwig. I find myself spending a lot of time troubling shooting rather than creating music. Granted I'm doing some pretty complex stuff. Logic just doesn't seem to want to do adapt to cutting edge production and mixing paradigms. Things that are absolutely driving me nuts: 1. No support for nested summing folders. And this ties into the thread's subject of delay companions. One can technically set up nested audio busses. This is absolutely critical for gain staging in EDM and is where the art form is heading. The PDC is all over the place is hierarchical aux/bus structures. Add to that any side chain one might use (ex. for ducking) and it's a phasing nightmare. Bitwig is doing all of this with ease. Off topic but... 2. No support for any sort of rack style plugin packs like abelton. This is super helpful for parallel processing audio within a plugin chain and having simultaneous wet/dry control. Logic is at a huge disadvantage here. 3. Can't have a single instance of a midi effect (like an LFO) sharing multiple destinations. I could go on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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