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This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Fri Oct 25, 2019 3:12 pm

Hi guys
Below is a link of the video clip, it's strange. Whenever editing notes in the piano roll, the catch playhead either turns on or off randomly. It's whenever im start / stopping, click and dragging.

Also, the event window keeps popping up when double clicking a midi not...not sure how to turn that off permanently. I've never had a use for the event editor or the floating window...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8lpqc485ql076 ... y.mov?dl=0
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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Sat Oct 26, 2019 6:52 pm

I think that the playhead behavior is related to the playback button settings (to start playing at the selection/location click), since the catch playhead button doesn't seem to light up...
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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Mon Oct 28, 2019 12:22 pm

The catch playhead button does light up, and lights off when it automatically turns it self off...if you watch the video clip, look at the catch playhead button...it turns on and off by itself.
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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Wed Oct 30, 2019 1:59 pm

Any help would be much appreciated. I can't seem to find any answers anywhere, aside from others having similar issues...
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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:18 pm

Perhaps the key command assigned to Catch playhead is conflicting with another one (i.e. playback or stop). Otherwise, I would try resetting the prefs files...
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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:28 pm

I just tested, no hot keys involved. Also happens without a keystroke, while only click and dragging to select a midi note in piano roll. :( . Crazy right?
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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Fri Nov 01, 2019 12:32 am

Which version of Logic are you using?
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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Fri Nov 01, 2019 5:55 pm

I am using 10.4.7, latest version. I am on High Sierra 10.13.6.
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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:53 am

I'm using 10.4.7 also and I'm running Mojave 10.14.6 and I'm having the same exact problem. Drives me crazy
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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:33 am

So what are your settings in LPX 'catch' preferences ?
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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:56 am

Did you see the video? It shows on there, but ill attach a pic anyway
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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:14 am

Ok. Do you have anything assigned to the 'Catch Playhead Position' keycommand ? Could be a conflict there...
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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:11 am

The Logic Pro X "Catch Preferences" do not necessarily correspond to which of the 3 commands will be "checked" when you control-click on the little playhead button. They are only a starting point.

Having the floating event window pop up every time you double-click a MIDI note can be burdensome. You can hide it by pressing option-E. The fact that it shows up on a double-click makes sense (to me). A double-click on the Mac has been a shortcut for "Open" since the beginning, so the double-click is interpreted in the way it has been for 35 years...I think you are dealing with interface DNA which is deeply embedded. I use the Event Float sometimes, so its appearance is "normal". Simple way to edit the event by typing!

I have not been able to reproduce the "catch playhead" bug that I saw in your video, no matter what I do. It certainly should be called a bug. Hard to get it fixed without some way to reproduce it reliably...
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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:36 am

facej wrote:
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I have not been able to reproduce the "catch playhead" bug that I saw in your video, no matter what I do. It certainly should be called a bug. Hard to get it fixed without some way to reproduce it reliably...
A bug is indeed normally something that can be reproduced.
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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:52 am

If you can document the steps to reliably cause the problem to occur then it can be fixed. If a problem only shows up at "random" times then it is remarkably difficult to fix. Still a bug. Hard to fix.
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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:59 am

Or something else causing the issue.
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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:43 pm

JakobP wrote:
Ok. Do you have anything assigned to the 'Catch Playhead Position' keycommand ? Could be a conflict there...
Catch keycommand.png


No, nothing. Blank.

Im hoping it's just something on my end, but turns out someone else in this thread has t he same issue...so the possibility that it's a bug, that is a conflict of events happening within the code during the process shown, which makes it all the more difficult to reproduce.

1. Open piano roll, zoom in.

2. Edit piano roll in cycle mode.

3. Stop, play with space bar.

4. Continue to edit piano roll, while stopping and playing with the space bar.

5. It will randomly turn on catchplay head.

Just the simplest way to put it, in the steps I use to reproduce the said issue randomly.
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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:44 pm

aguyfromsomewhere wrote:
JakobP wrote:
Ok. Do you have anything assigned to the 'Catch Playhead Position' keycommand ? Could be a conflict there...
Catch keycommand.png


No, nothing. Blank.

Im hoping it's just something on my end, but turns out someone else in this thread has t he same issue...so the possibility that it's a bug, that is a conflict of events happening within the code during the process shown, which makes it all the more difficult to reproduce.

1. Open piano roll, zoom in.

2. Edit piano roll in cycle mode.

3. Stop, play with space bar.

4. Continue to edit piano roll, while stopping and playing with the space bar.

5. It will randomly turn on catchplay head.

Just the simplest way to put it, in the steps I use to reproduce the said issue randomly.

From what I understand reading your explanation, this is standard behaviour. The second you move/edit something, Logic will turn off Catch playhead button because it's assumed that you don't want to loose the view on what you're editing. It kinda makes sense. Press Play again and it will put Catch on because you want to see where you are in your project when pressing Play. Edit/move something again, Catch will turn off again.

Or maybe I didn't understand what your problem is…

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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Tue Nov 19, 2019 1:18 am

The issue is that i don't want catch playhead to turn on automatically...it turns on automatically. I want it off, forever...like I never use it. Never ever ever. But yet, if im zoomed in and working in the piano rolls and the song is playing , and im editing...low and behold catch playhead randomly turns on and i lose my place of editing...it makes me literally want to headbutt my monitor until a shard lodges into my skull deep enough to kill me.
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Re: This catch playhead turning on by itself, still a bug or just user error?

Sun Dec 01, 2019 11:41 pm

I’m with you man, this bug is plaguing me!!! I would love to find a way to disable catch playhead forever!

I’ve posted a couple times on gearslutz about it. It’s 100% a bug and I struggle to see how others aren’t coming across it.
I’ve been using this program for over 15 years and this popped up around 10.3.4 or so and never gets fixed.

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-c ... st14357897

Have you submitted logic feedback to Apple. Loads of people need to do this before something gets fixed.