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Navigating with a Scroll-wheel mouse, Surfing without!

Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:31 pm

If you are the lucky owner of a scroll-wheel mouse (who isn't?), then you can easily navigate Logic's editor windows using these shortcuts:

Scroll Up/Down: Move Up/Down
Command + Shift + Scroll: Move Left/Right
Option + Scroll: Vertical Zoom In/Out
Option+Command + Scroll: Horizontal Zoom In/Out
Option+Control + Scroll: Zoom In/Out

Now to really "SURF" the Editors in Logic, simply hold Control + Shift while clicking in the background. Move the mouse up, down, left or right and... SURF! For advanced surfing, try moving both down and right, up and left... at the same time!

Note: Surfing in Logic can be a little disconcerting at first: moving the mouse to the left moves the editor window to the right, moving the mouse up moves the window downwards... so to get your brain in sync with what you're doing, picture yourself "grabbing" the editor through the window and moving it around, much like you would grab a microfilm and move it around to see what you want through the window.*

Enjoy! :D

*This behavior has changed in Logic Pro 7.1: now you simply move the mouse in the direction you want the window to move, just like a 2D scrollbar.
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Re: Navigating with a Scroll-wheel mouse, Surfing without!

Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:47 am

David wrote:
........much like you would grab a microfilm and move it around to see what you want through the window.


Wow ! Haven't used one of those things since college library, David.
Are they still around ?

The girls in the office here think your pic makes you look like one of those magicians who read minds ....................

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Sun May 08, 2005 2:52 pm

Hi: While we're on the subject of a scroll-wheel mouse, any good recommendations for a two-button, scroll wheel mouse to use with Logic Pro? Wireless would be an added touch, but not absolutley necessary. Thanks.
 
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Sun May 08, 2005 3:56 pm

I find Logitech mice to be of good value/quality.

If you don't need cordless, go for a corded mouse. You'll never have to recharge your mouse in the middle of a long session!

I use something simple like this:

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/produ ... ENTID=5928

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Sat May 14, 2005 8:08 am

I must admint I hate it that they changed the direction...I use this all day long and now I have to relearn it all over....Like driving a car with the pedals reversed.

Anyone know how to change it to logic 7.0 behaviour?

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Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:36 pm

Vank I agree totally!@!

What's even MOER frustating is that the direction has changed in the arrange but NOT in the matrix editor window!

Apple ...that's really lame!

They need to pay careful attention to what they are doing and make things consistent.


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Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:31 pm

I don't use that tool all that much but I believe that if Apple changed it, it's probably because a lot of users requested it. However, it seems like it would be easy to add a little checkbox in your preferences, something like "Old style navigation tool (inverted)", to let all of use decide for ourselves what is better.
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Re: Navigating with a Scroll-wheel mouse, Surfing without!

Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:35 pm

David wrote:


Note: Surfing in Logic can be a little disconcerting at first: moving the mouse to the left moves the editor window to the right, moving the mouse up moves the window downwards... so to get your brain in sync with what you're doing, picture yourself "grabbing" the editor through the window and moving it around, much like you would grab a microfilm and move it around to see what you want through the window.*

Enjoy! :D

*This behavior has changed in Logic Pro 7.1: now you simply move the mouse in the direction you want the window to move, just like a 2D scrollbar.


I just got a mighty mouse. I'm kind of wondering why I bothered, rather than get a regular three or five button mouse from Kensington or Logitech. But I had the old one button mouse before so this is definitely an improvement. The one thing I love now is if I want to scroll smoothly one way or the other in a Logic window, I hold down the mouse wheel (ball) and drag just like I've always done with shift-control drag before. This is way better. You can just nudge it gently and hold the mouse still and watch the window slooowly scroll by if you want. But that right click "button" on the mighty mouse is definitely fiddly, you actually have to lift your finger OFF the left side of the mouse to make the right click work properly! Not the greatest way of implemetning it, Apple.

One thing about the Logitech (5 button mouse) it has this nice feature where clicking the wheel and dragging will also scroll web pages, either direction, in the same manner that this function works in Logic. But I can't get the mightymouse to do that with web pages. One plus with the mighty mouse is the side buttons have become "desktop" with expose.

That right click's a bugger though. Don't like that.
 
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Tue Jan 03, 2006 6:34 am

macally does a fantastic selection of mice for the mac i found them much superior to all other 3rd party supplier, because the driver that comes with the macallies makes the mouse behaviour much more precice 'n' nicer then the original OS driver...

http://www.macally.com
 
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Re: Navigating with a Scroll-wheel mouse, Surfing without!

Fri Mar 31, 2006 8:02 am

that's odd camillo
multi-direction scrolling web pages with the scroll wheel button works fine with my mighty mouse as long as my browser window has somewhere to scroll to

Agree 100% with you that the MM right click is annoying - you have to get used to lifiting up your finger rather than sliding it across. I don't know if i ever will get used to that!

However, sooner or later EVERYthing 3rd party that needs a driver has proven to be a pain in the ass for me... (including mice and tablets) that's why i went with the apple mouse.

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Sun Apr 02, 2006 5:37 am

I use microsoft wireless keyboard and mouse, they support the Mac very well with own control panels where you can set up lots of things.
Yes this has improved navigating and zooming very much.
The keyboard feels much better for my taste, the mac stuff is too "light" Imho. But that's not the topic, I know.

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Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:02 am

I used to use the 4 button w/scroll Kensinton and always felt like I had to worry about the side buttons. I've traded it in for the new Kensignton PilotMouse Optical which is a two button with scroll wheel. The profile of this one is rather high which is very comfortable and has helped my writst a ton. Anyway, check it out...I can't recommend it enough. They also have a wireless but it eats batteries.

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Re: Navigating with a Scroll-wheel mouse, Surfing without!

Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:19 am

David wrote:
Now to really "SURF" the Editors in Logic, simply hold Control + Shift while clicking in the background. Move the mouse up, down, left or right and... SURF!


And if you are still click-holding with the mouse, Let go of Control and Shift and press Option to change to Zoom
 
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Good one! Thanks!
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Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:30 pm

i have that same logitech mouse listed baove, but red... :D

I can just hold down the scroll wheel button, and move the mouse to "cruise" all over logic's pages, instead of hitting the keyboard buttons first...

this is a better way :D
 
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Sun Nov 05, 2006 11:14 pm

I use the Kenisngon Trackball with the big wheel AROUND the ball! All the different zooming key commands work great with the big wheel.

http://us.kensington.com/html/2200.html

and I've programed the button so that the lower left is 'clik', upper left is 'double clik', upper right selects a programmable tool, and bottom right brings up the floating tool bar.

wheee.
 
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Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:22 am

for everybody who wants to get the most control out of his mouse, specialy the mighty mouse, try steermouse:

http://plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/

with this you can configure almost any mouse to do anything and give your mouse buttons different controls with different aplications.

there's a 14 days trial, i believe

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Mon May 07, 2007 5:49 pm

I see this is an old thread, but the new Logitech MX Revoloution is amazing:

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Tue May 27, 2008 3:27 pm

i dont know if this is old news but i just discovered if you click on the floating transport while using the scrollwheel on your mouse you can zoom in/out and resize the transport bar.