lingtalfi Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Hi, thanks to some posts on this forum I was able to download the toolkit from swiftkick (http://www.swiftkick.com/). I'm reading the pdfs, and find it very interesting. But unfortunately, all the concrete examples seems to be delivered as .lso files which my version of logic pro can't open (it basically tells me to open them in logic pro 7.2.1, then save them and try again). But I don't have access to logic pro 7. Does by any chance anybody have those .lso files converted for logic pro X (and willing to share them) ? It seems that the knowledge in those files is very valuable, and yet lost for the basic user (like me). That would be so cool if somebody could just make that knowledge available again. Hoping, cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Here it is, from the depths of the vault. Many thanks to the ever ingenuous Len Sasso who bravely mapped out this hitherto widely uncharted territory. Note that this all comes from Logic 4.x, so a great many objects look differently than they did back then and I will not guarantee that every patch works, but hey, it's free. environment toolkit.lso.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Thanks for sharing that! Do any of these go along with any of Lasso's written materials in some way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Yes. It's chapter 3, Environment Tools, in its entirety. There's also the chapter 4 Environment Examples project which I dug up just now. However, while this runs fine in Logic X 4.4, it's completely destroyed in Logic X 4.8. It's the use of Macros which makes it implode. Proceed with caution. Given that time is not exactly short in the current situation, I might just sit down one day and extract all the Macros in X.4.4. Environment Examples.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lingtalfi Posted March 26, 2020 Author Share Posted March 26, 2020 Thanks fuzzfilth, I now believe in God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 You're welcome. The Macros thing is something that actually happened way back (transition from L9 to LPX, maybe ?) but I still remember being badly stuck with corrupted Macros all over the place. They didn't work at all for a couple of versions, then they somehow recovered, and now those old Macros are broken again in 4.8 (4.5 possibly, since that's where much has changed under the hood). They need to be unpacked in a safe version up to 4.4, then be packed in 4.5 or up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 That's great, thank you so much Christian for providing these. I remember asking Len if that was okay for us to host more recent versions of his files and I remember him agreeing, yet I couldn't find the files so I can't remember if I ever translated and uploaded them somewhere. But now here it is. I'm moving this to the template section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Ok, here are two versions of the Environment Examples. In one, all Macros unpacked. In the other, all unpacked Macros are packed into Macros again. Either both or at least one version should work in 4.5 and up. I haven't tested any of these, so watch your step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Thanks a lot FuzzFilth, but what happened to the attachments? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Yes. It's chapter 3, Environment Tools, in its entirety. which book is that? Is that chapter three from this one?: https://www.amazon.com/Emagic-Logic-Tips-Tricks-Sasso/dp/1870775856/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=len+sasso&qid=1585256895&sr=8-3 There is also this much older document: http://www.lipscomb.umn.edu/docs/MusicTech/LogicEnvironmentTutorial.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 I took them down, as I found nested Macros which I hadn't spotted at first. I'm currently in the process of disentangling these, hang on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) Ok, once more, now squeaky clean. I hope. These are Chapters 3 and 4 from Len's linked set of PDFs "The Environment Toolkit". Its format has not aged well, however, the information in it is priceless. Environment Examples unpacked.zip Environment Examples unpacked+packed.zip Edited March 27, 2020 by fuzzfilth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 where does one find that document you are displaying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 http://www.swiftkick.com at the bottom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Excellent Resource. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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