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The Dot-Quarter Note Click in 12/8 Thread

Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:56 am

UPDATED: read this first, but download the version shown later in the thread.

An updated version of this environment is located a few posts down. Meanwhile, this instructions in this post are still worth a read.

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For those who don't know, Logic has had a long-standing omission: there is no provision to get a dotted quarter note click from the Klopfgeist when working in 12/8, 6/8, etc.) But I've come up with a scheme to make this happen! To add this functionality to your song...

• open the attached file [actually, the updated version below] and copy the macro with CMD-C. What you're seeing there is the "Clicks and Ports" layer ("'C&P') of the Environment).

• in your song or template, open two environment windows: one showing the C&P layer, the other showing the Mixer layer.

• in the C&P layer, CMD-V (paste)

• cable the output of your MIDI Click icon to the macro

• click/hold on the top output of the MIDI monitor (the red cable with the 'hammerhead' top) and drag it to the Klopfgeist instrument in the Mixer layer.

• final step -- this is important -- open your Metronome prefs and untick the Beat checkbox.

Out of the box, this will work for 12/8. To make it work for 6/8, select the Delay Line and change the number of repeats to "1" in the parameters section on the left. For 9/8, change it to "2". [ EDIT: see updated version below which provides a menu for selecting different time signatures -- much easier! ]

Note: if you're working strictly in one of these meters this should work like a charm. This scheme may not work well at all if you're working in mixed meters. But for swing charts, renditions of Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring and so on it should work just fine. :mrgreen:
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 10:32 am

Brilliant!
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:27 pm

8) Thanks Jay!
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Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:18 pm

Hey

Thanks for this solution.

I work constantly with celtic 6/8, 9/8 & 12/8

this is a great help.

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Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:55 pm

Glad this helps you Frances! Please post back if you run into any problems or special situations that you need help with.

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Mon Mar 02, 2009 9:28 pm

Hey Guys,

I made a new version that will save you the trouble of having to change the delay line repeat value when working in different time sigs. Now you can use a menu to select the time sig you're working in and you're good to go.

In the attached file I've consolidated the programming into an environment "macro" called Dot-1/4 Click Maker (Ski V1.0). All you have to do to incorporate this into your songs is copy the macro itself, paste it into your song, and cable it as before:

Your MIDI Click--->Macro--->Klopfgeist (Instrument 256)

Oh, and disabling the the Beat checkbox in the Metronome settings still applies.

Enjoy!
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Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:50 pm

Hey Thanks for the update

The efforts of you moderator guys on this forum are just fantastic!!

All very appreciated.

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Wed Mar 04, 2009 5:09 am

Thanks Frances!
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Re: The Dot-Quarter Note Click in 12/8 Thread

Mon Aug 21, 2017 10:04 am

I see this thread and update is 8 years old.

Any updates for current Logic X?


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Re: The Dot-Quarter Note Click in 12/8 Thread

Tue Aug 22, 2017 6:32 am

No longer necessary in current versions of Logic Pro X. You can set the click to beat dotted quarters in 12/8.
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Re: The Dot-Quarter Note Click in 12/8 Thread

Thu May 03, 2018 1:36 pm

Ashermusic wrote:
No longer necessary in current versions of Logic Pro X. You can set the click to beat dotted quarters in 12/8.


How? I just updated and still can't find it.
 
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Re: The Dot-Quarter Note Click in 12/8 Thread

Tue May 08, 2018 9:47 am

In the Metronome Project Settings , uncheck Beat.The hold the mouse down on the time signature in the Control Bar and choose Custom and type in the desired grouping. Here I have set Logic to beat dotted quarters in 12/8.

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Re: The Dot-Quarter Note Click in 12/8 Thread

Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:21 am

Hmmm. I just tried it with exactly those settings (as far as I can see) but I have to set the tempo up 50% for it to be right.(180 gives a bar that lasts 2 seconds).
Might have done something wrong :)
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Re: The Dot-Quarter Note Click in 12/8 Thread

Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:08 am

Nope, that's just Logic (ironic)... The tempo is always based on a quarter note. Annoying. I've asked for this to be changed many times, but I guess it's not a priority.
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Re: The Dot-Quarter Note Click in 12/8 Thread

Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:36 pm

Thanks.
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Re: The Dot-Quarter Note Click in 12/8 Thread

Mon Apr 15, 2019 8:13 am

we should all make feature requests at the same time, never know...

Does Peter's environment macro still work for solving this?
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