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Environment Toolkit for Logic Pro X (from Len Sasso at Swiftkick)

Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:47 am

Hi, thanks to some posts on this forum I was able to download the toolkit from swiftkick (http://www.swiftkick.com/).
I'm reading the pdfs, and find it very interesting.
But unfortunately, all the concrete examples seems to be delivered as .lso files which my version of logic pro can't open (it basically tells me to open them in logic pro 7.2.1, then
save them and try again). But I don't have access to logic pro 7.

Does by any chance anybody have those .lso files converted for logic pro X (and willing to share them) ?

It seems that the knowledge in those files is very valuable, and yet lost for the basic user (like me). That would be so cool if somebody could just make that knowledge available again.

Hoping, cheers.
 
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Re: Environment swiftkick for logic pro x ?

Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:51 pm

Here it is, from the depths of the vault.

Many thanks to the ever ingenuous Len Sasso who bravely mapped out this hitherto widely uncharted territory.

Note that this all comes from Logic 4.x, so a great many objects look differently than they did back then and I will not guarantee that every patch works, but hey, it's free.
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Re: Environment swiftkick for logic pro x ?

Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:29 pm

Thanks for sharing that! Do any of these go along with any of Lasso's written materials in some way?
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Re: Environment swiftkick for logic pro x ?

Wed Mar 25, 2020 5:04 pm

Yes. It's chapter 3, Environment Tools, in its entirety.

There's also the chapter 4 Environment Examples project which I dug up just now. However, while this runs fine in Logic X 4.4, it's completely destroyed in Logic X 4.8. It's the use of Macros which makes it implode. Proceed with caution.

Given that time is not exactly short in the current situation, I might just sit down one day and extract all the Macros in X.4.4.
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Re: Environment swiftkick for logic pro x ?

Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:07 am

Thanks fuzzfilth, I now believe in God.
 
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Re: Environment swiftkick for logic pro x ?

Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:51 am

You're welcome.

The Macros thing is something that actually happened way back (transition from L9 to LPX, maybe ?) but I still remember being badly stuck with corrupted Macros all over the place. They didn't work at all for a couple of versions, then they somehow recovered, and now those old Macros are broken again in 4.8 (4.5 possibly, since that's where much has changed under the hood).

They need to be unpacked in a safe version up to 4.4, then be packed in 4.5 or up.
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Re: Environment swiftkick for logic pro x ?

Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:25 am

That's great, thank you so much Christian for providing these. I remember asking Len if that was okay for us to host more recent versions of his files and I remember him agreeing, yet I couldn't find the files so I can't remember if I ever translated and uploaded them somewhere. But now here it is. I'm moving this to the template section.
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Re: Environment Toolkit for Logic Pro X (from Len Sasso at Swiftkick)

Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:32 am

Ok, here are two versions of the Environment Examples.

In one, all Macros unpacked.

In the other, all unpacked Macros are packed into Macros again.

Either both or at least one version should work in 4.5 and up. I haven't tested any of these, so watch your step.
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Re: Environment Toolkit for Logic Pro X (from Len Sasso at Swiftkick)

Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:59 pm

Thanks a lot FuzzFilth, but what happened to the attachments?
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Re: Environment swiftkick for logic pro x ?

Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:09 pm

fuzzfilth wrote:
Yes. It's chapter 3, Environment Tools, in its entirety.


which book is that?

Is that chapter three from this one?: https://www.amazon.com/Emagic-Logic-Tip ... 895&sr=8-3

There is also this much older document: http://www.lipscomb.umn.edu/docs/MusicT ... torial.pdf
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Re: Environment Toolkit for Logic Pro X (from Len Sasso at Swiftkick)

Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:36 pm

I took them down, as I found nested Macros which I hadn't spotted at first. I'm currently in the process of disentangling these, hang on...
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Re: Environment Toolkit for Logic Pro X (from Len Sasso at Swiftkick)

Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:46 pm

Ok, once more, now squeaky clean. I hope.

These are Chapters 3 and 4 from Len's linked set of PDFs "The Environment Toolkit".

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Its format has not aged well, however, the information in it is priceless.
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Re: Environment Toolkit for Logic Pro X (from Len Sasso at Swiftkick)

Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:49 pm

where does one find that document you are displaying?
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Re: Environment Toolkit for Logic Pro X (from Len Sasso at Swiftkick)

Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:50 pm

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Re: Environment Toolkit for Logic Pro X (from Len Sasso at Swiftkick)

Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:56 pm

Excellent Resource. Thank you!
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