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yks

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I have an ongoing problem assigning CCs. I completely understand how the controller assignments are supposed to work, in the "easy" and "expert" views. However, when I try to learn CCs to volume faders in Logic's mixer view, sometimes they assign correctly and sometimes they map to mixer faders I never touched.

 

For instance just now I tried sequentially mapping CCs from a Korg nanoKontrol 2 to a series of mixer channel volume faders (which in this case are aux channels). The first one worked fine. The two that I tried to do after that got assigned NOT to the mixer faders I touched but to the Master fader. So I have three nanoKontrol faders which now map to: aux fader / master fader / master fader. I do not want ANY controllers mapped to the master fader, never mind two of them!

 

What's the secret to understanding how Logic maps CCs? It certainly doesn't seem to work for me the way it is described in the manual, other threads in this forum, or various Youtube tutorials.

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In the expert view, you could delete the assignment(s) you don't want to keep.

 

I have done this, and started my assignments from scratch.

I do not want to use the Korg template for this controller -- I just want to assign CCs to specific faders.

 

But please somebody... can you explain to me why, when I try to assign a CC to a particular fader, I keep failing?

Why would the main stereo output fader be moving instead of the specific track fader which I supposedly just linked?

 

This problem of CCs not linking to the faders I am trying to specify, but rather ending up controlling unrelated faders, goes back to Logic 9 with me. I don't understand why it should be so obscurely difficult, when it is so simple and clear in Ableton Live, Reaper, or any other of a handful of other music apps which I use.

 

Thanks...

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In the expert view, you could delete the assignment(s) you don't want to keep.

 

I have done this, and started my assignments from scratch.

You don't need to start from scratch, just delete the wrong (Master fader) assignment and keep the other you want...

 

I do not want to use the Korg template for this controller -- I just want to assign CCs to specific faders.

Are you using different scenes? Do you use the Kontrol Editor app?

 

But please somebody... can you explain to me why, when I try to assign a CC to a particular fader, I keep failing?

It's hard to tell since I don't know how you proceed exactly. Did you check in Control Surface Setup window what is installed there and how? Are you using different MIDI controllers concurrently? Perhaps you have a MIDI loop? IS there other MIDI app running that could be interfering?

 

Why would the main stereo output fader be moving instead of the specific track fader which I supposedly just linked?

What are your Control Surface preferences?

 

This problem of CCs not linking to the faders I am trying to specify, but rather ending up controlling unrelated faders, goes back to Logic 9 with me. I don't understand why it should be so obscurely difficult, when it is so simple and clear in Ableton Live, Reaper, or any other of a handful of other music apps which I use.

Flexibility comes with a price...

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  • 3 years later...

Hi.

 

Yes. The problem seems the same as the original post. When assigning a fader to a specific channel, it will randomly assign to another. The knobs work fine and will assign correctly to bus or pan etc. The other buttons assign correctly, it's just the faders.

 

It seems I've tried every suggestion on the net I can find, but nothing seems to work.

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It's difficult to understand your issue without seeing the assignments, but my guess would be that it's not *randomly" assigning to another channel, as you describe.

 

There are many ways for an assignment to target a mixer channel - it can target the selected channel, or a channel offset by bank switching, or directly target particular channels of a particular type, and how you want to set this up depends a lot on what you are trying to do.

 

When you make an assignment, Logic doesn't necessarily know what you want to do, but check the the Class and Channel Strip targeting. Try it on a simple project with only a few tracks, and learn what the various ways of targeting channel strips are.

 

If you are still getting behaviour which seems weird to you on a simple empty project, let us know the steps you do so we can recreate it and see if it can be explained, or if it really is an issue to be reported...

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I find it's good to review what you have assigned by moving the controls with the assignments window open to check your progress when mapping (It auto highlights that mapping). So, I make sure the hardware mapping is clear before i attempt to re-map it again, which takes away a lot of the confusion.

 

What you've got to be really careful with is the targeting and MCU like controls which will put Logic into different modes, if you map in one mode and something causes the mode to change it will throw your assignments out, so make sure nothing is doing that.

 

Hence why i say it's good to review everything you have mapped to know what's going on, chances are your target assignments are changing if it seems random elements are at play.

 

It's also worth mapping in a clean project with say 32 tracks set up, so you can practise banking through the number of faders available to you. AND always create a zone for your controller to keep things neat, if you move a control and it jumps out of that zone (while watching the assignment screen) then it's a giveaway that something didn't map correctly OR a mode change has occurred.

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  • 4 months later...

I too am having this problem. When I try to map a fader with my CC the channel Strip box on the expert view jumps to a fader bank and selects a different strip in logic. Is there a way to customize the controller Assignments?

I’m using a evolution UC33e and just can’t figure it out. One other question is it possible just to scrap the controller is logic and use mainstage.

My main goal is to mix live dub

Cheers

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