bowserlm Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I'm going through and mixing and audio editing a movie soundtrack, along with the music, and was wondering if there was any way to apply an insert effect to just a region. I seem to remember Nuendo being able to do this. I know that the old way was to select a region, do the ol' "Open in Soundtrack Pro", apply the effect, and then pop back into Logic. Now that Soundtrack is no more, anyone have any clever methods" Obviously in most cases this isn't too big of a deal, because you'd want the effects on the track, but in a case like work with dialogue and many sound effects, it would be nice if there was a way I could manipulate say the EQ on a per region basis, without doing a bunch of automation drawing ballet behind the scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmedia Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Nope, region/clip based effects are not possible with Logic, sadly. Like in Nuendo, ProTools or Reaper. In such cases I just work with multiple audio tracks, each with different settings/plugins. Often you can reuse the same channel for another region too. Then pack all those tracks into a folder if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 You can do this with bounce in place. Set up your EQ. Then bounce the region in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowserlm Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 Is there any way to setup a path to an Audio Editor, so that you can do the equivalent of an 'Open in Soundtrack Pro' but with your own audio editor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Yes. You can set it up in Preferences > Audio > Audio File Editor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowserlm Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 Ah! Awesome. I'll look into that. Curious how it's handing it between programs. And how easy it would be to swap the effect file back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Ah! Awesome. I'll look into that. Curious how it's handing it between programs. And how easy it would be to swap the effect file back in. There's nothing to swap: you continue using the same audio file in Logic. In your external audio editor, you're destructively editing that audio file, meaning you're changing the actual audio file on your hard drive. The next time you go back to Logic, you continue using the same, changed (edited) audio file. The work flow is actually really smooth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowserlm Posted July 10, 2015 Author Share Posted July 10, 2015 Gotcha. So, if I'm editing a piece of a larger audio file, say I have dialogue for an entire scene, and I snip just a small region and edit that in an external editor, did Logic make a new smaller audio file to send over, or is it destructively editing a portion of my bigger file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 is it destructively editing a portion of my bigger file? ^^^ Yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anp27 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I'm going through and mixing and audio editing a movie soundtrack, along with the music, and was wondering if there was any way to apply an insert effect to just a region. I seem to remember Nuendo being able to do this. I'm a little curious now.. How does this feature actually work in Cubase? So you insert the FX into the regions, but I guess it's 'non-destructive' somehow? What about region based automation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowserlm Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 I can't speak for Cubase, but in Nuendo, you can apply an Insert FX stack to a region just like you can a track. It all stays live, so there is no mixdown step or anything. You can go back and edit it as necessary. Of course, over time this will begin to weigh on the CPU, which is why they also have the nice feature of "Freezing" the stack, so it's the same as a mixdown, but you can unfreeze and tweak the parameters some more. It's honestly a really really handy feature and I'm bummed not to have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airforceguitar Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 You could always just use automation to bring the effect in just on that clip (region) anyhow. It's pretty easy with the "create two points at region boarders" key command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowserlm Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 Yeah, that's what I'll have to do, but just imagine like in a typical mixing scenario, you have dialogue, sound FX, ambience, sound design, etc..... It would be pretty easy to max out any given track with Insert FX, even if you are switching them on and switching them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anp27 Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I can't speak for Cubase, but in Nuendo, you can apply an Insert FX stack to a region just like you can a track. It all stays live, so there is no mixdown step or anything. You can go back and edit it as necessary. I see... so it's really more of a convenience thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowserlm Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 Not even really that. It changes the way you work. If you come up to a sound, and you really need to mold it in different ways in the context of a mix, it's good to be able to do that from a clean slate, not having to take into account that previously downstream in your mix you have an EQ, 3 Distortion FX, and 2 Reverbs all automated to turn on and off at their appropriate times. It is either that, or you break everything into way more tracks than are necessary, and again you have a problem of inefficiency. So really, I'd say that's crucial for this kind of stuff, which at the end of the day I knowingly bear the cross for trying to have the mix, the sound design, and the score all live in one Project on one App. Which I realize is an infinitely rare case, where I'm doing all three myself, and in tadem with eachother. Manipulating the entire audio palette really. Just waxing poetic now, but I appreciate how quickly you guys jump in with ideas or suggestions. This forum is really awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ploki Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 Ah! Awesome. I'll look into that. Curious how it's handing it between programs. And how easy it would be to swap the effect file back in. There's nothing to swap: you continue using the same audio file in Logic. In your external audio editor, you're destructively editing that audio file, meaning you're changing the actual audio file on your hard drive. The next time you go back to Logic, you continue using the same, changed (edited) audio file. The work flow is actually really smooth. You don't need to re-load the project for it to work? because when I just use "show file in finder" and edit directly, I always have to reload the project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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