Closing Open High Hat with closed Hight hat?

[uncle808us]

I have searched here and googled but found no answer to have the open hi hat stop when the closed hi hat is hit in the an exs drum setup using the piano roll. I guess I am not asking the question correctly. Sorry Hope someone understands what I am trying to ask.

Thanks

[oscwilde]

Logic Pro X Instruments manual.

EXS Group parameters.

 

Poly. (polyphony): Determines the number of voices that the group can play. The Max

option ensures that the group uses all voices allowed by the Voices parameter in the

Parameter window.

A practical use of the Poly parameter is to set up a classic “hi-hat mode” within a full drum kit

that is mapped across the keyboard. For example, you could assign an open and closed hi-hat

sample to a group, and set the Voices parameter of the group to 1. The most recently triggered

of the two hi-hat samples mutes the other because only one voice is allowed for the group.

This mirrors the real-world behavior of hi-hats.

[uncle808us]

Thank you I will try to do this if I can understand it. When I add a group it says group 47? I have no idea why.

[oscwilde]

I'm assuming you're editing a drum kit - so group 47 wouln't be unusual.

Grouped samples can be used for a number of tasks, such as hi-hat mode, multiple velocity layers that trigger different samples, round robins, and more.

 

If you're new to the whole idea, I'd suggest opening a few of the Logic factory EXS insts and taking a look in the EXS Editor window - a drum kit probably wouldn't be a bad one to start with, given what you're trying to achieve.

[JoeA]

The 1-voice polyphony method for making closed hihats cut off open ones will work, but the 1-note polyphony doesn't let you play the open hihats polyphonically, which can sound unnatural if you're keeping time or doing a figure with partially- or fully-open hats. There's a newer, better way now, that does allow for polyphonic open hats but still makes closed/foot hats properly cut them off ..

 

In the Group->Voices area, right next to the Polyphony column, there's a new column: "Exclusive". Instead of assigning all the hihat samples to the same (1-voice) Group, you assign them to different Groups (i.e. Group1-Closed, Group2-1/2open, Group3-open, Group4-foot, etc).. Then you assign all these Groups to the same Exclusive "Class" in the Exclusive column (i.e. all HH Groups to Class 1).

 

 

Now you can play all the hihat samples/Groups with full polyphony (or the polyphony of your choosing), but when you play a hihat sample in a different Group it will cut off the currently-sounding Group, making for more natural-sounding hihat parts (this is how the hihats in Drummer/DKD are set up).

 

AFAIK, this feature is still not documented in the iBook manual (unless it's been updated in the last couple of months)..

 

Cheers,

Joe

[uncle808us]

unfortunately as you see in my signature I am using Logic 9.1.8. so I can't use this.

[JoeA]

>> There's a newer, better way now..

 

> Unfortunately as you see in my signature I am using Logic 9.1.8. so I can't use this.

 

Ah, yes, I just noticed that.. Sorry.. With Logic 9 the 1-note solution is your only option, at least within EXS (if it the polyphonic behavior was critical, there is an (elaborate) Environment solution, but it would be much easier to just upgrade to LPX)..

 

Cheers,

Joe

[DanRad]

It works fine in LP 4-9… been doing it for over a decade.

[uncle808us]

Thanks to all you guys. I have it working and I am satisfied with the result. Thanks again