stardustmedia Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Hi I run Logic 10.2.0 on Mavericks. What would you do? - Stay with Mavericks and just update Logic to 10.2.1? - Or update also MacOS to El Capitan? If you would recommend to update the OS: - Would you first update Logic, then OS - Or first update to El Capitan, then Logic PS: A current system backup is already done, so I'll be able to go back at any time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Do you have a need to update the OS? DO you have any hardware or software that will stop working if you upgrade the OS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmedia Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 Do you have a need to update the OS? Truely the best question I have forgotten to ask myself No there is no need. I just came across some Mavericks quirks. But they're actually no killer for doing music. DO you have any hardware or software that will stop working if you upgrade the OS? Unsure, and too much time consuming to check all of them out. Easier to upgrade and then check all apps. If something important is buggy, I can still go back with the system clone I prepared. The other way around, I don't have software that is NOT supported in Mavericks any longer. I think I can expand my questionnaire with: Is there a performance boost from Mavericks to El Capitan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I find 10.11 much nicer altogether as an operating system. The graphics engine is enhanced and many small bugs (not Logic related) have been fixed. The key is to make sure that you have your critical hardware working in El Capitan. Apple has re-written their USB drivers for more energy efficiency. This has created problems with many bus powered devices. Just go ahead and try the update if you have time to spare. You have obviously made sure that you have a clone so it's pretty smooth to revert if you find any showstopper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beatsmith Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I did this recently, i posted a similar thread: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=122248&p=626226#p626226 Everything has been super smooth - unnoticeable, in fact, other than one kinda huge problem with my SSL MadiXtreme64 PCIe card. There is a workaround, but it requires turning off 'SIP', which isn't ideal. As it's not a super popular card, I didn't know about this - and I have close ties with SSL's workstation team, and nobody mentioned it... Plugin wise, I was totally up to date and so there have been no issues so far. Performance wise, GUI stuff in the OS is a bit better overall, and I saved about 7GB of HD space on my small SSD boot drive, so that enough is OK for me. I haven't noticed any huge improvements in Logic, but I just wanted to give 10.2.1 the 'best chance' it could. I'd recommend googling for issues about every single piece of hardware/software that you have, and make sure there isn't a big thread of people complaining! I did that and still ran into that issue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmedia Posted January 28, 2016 Author Share Posted January 28, 2016 Thanks Eric & Beatsmith. Good points. I think as soon as I have time, I will jump into it. In worst case I'll loose some time, but I can always easily revert back, thanks to the system clone. I'd go nuts if I had to install almost 250 apps/plugins after an update Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnaud Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 One thing to report, stardustmedia, is that I've read in another thread here (I'm in a hurry, no time to retrieve it, but do a search and you should find it) is that there was a significant issue with the (new) tape delay plug-in in LPX 10.2.1 when running Yiosemite and opening older projects created with LPX 10.2 or earlier that would use that plug-in, because when opened in LPX 10.2.1 the pug-in's setting (and sounding) were changed compared to original. Issue was solved by upgrading to El Capitan. So that alone is the reason why I personnaly plan to upgrade to EC before I upgrade to LPX 10.2.1 (even if, for any other reasons, I would not feel a need for EC at the moment). I'll take my time and do that when I'm in between two projects. I cannot confirm whether this Tape Delay / LPX 10.2.1 / OSX 10.10 improper backward compaitbility also exists with Mavericks though. If you have some significant use of TD and want to be able to open older projects without worying about backward compatilibity, I would recommend that you investigate this further, and seriously consider upgrading to EC if you consider upgrading to 10.2.1. Cheers, Arnaud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmedia Posted January 29, 2016 Author Share Posted January 29, 2016 Thanks Arnaud The last time I used Tape Delay, was, I think 2007, maybe 2008, not sure, could be 2006... This bug won't affect me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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