sun b Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 hi board i'd love to have your wisdom round the question of drives. i believe it's advisable to record on an external drive. (i'm running an intel core2duo imac with logic 7.2.3 using an apogee ensemble) i got a lacie 500gb, hooked it up via firewire 800 and it sent the whole platform mad. the ensemble started saying goodbye every five minutes like the relationship was over, though logic remained active in spite of occasional messages saying the drive was too slow (or words to that effect.) i unhooked the lacie after a week of hysteria, returned to recording on the internal drive and lo! everything is cool. just finished my first basic tracking-laying on my first tune on this so sexy logic thingy. (yeaaaah) what did i do wrong? some clever bod at turnkey in london said i should have gone western digital, he says lacie drives are rubbeesh! or at least not hi enough spec'd any views? peace and love sun b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeliusAlpha Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 I dont have any experience dealing with the apogee ensemble but i doubt that is the problem, but i have plenty with lacie drives. Like you, i've heard every bad thing possible about them, but i have never had a problem with mine. my setup is the same... lacie drive hooked up via firewire 800, and i store and record the entire logic project onto it. i dont believe you did anything wrong, just do a restart and try again only running logic, apogee and the drive. here at my college, all of my friends in the music production and engineering department use lacie drives and record straight from pro tools or logic. and they are running all the external gear as well (like your apogee). again, i doubt you did anything wrong. check your buffer size maybe? if you're only using audio instruments make your buffer size bigger. alright hope this provides some useful info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Maybe, just maybe, there's a clue from the Apogee website's specs for the Ensemble: "FireWire 400 I/O, compatible with OS X Core Audio (no driver required)" But you've attached a FW 800 drive. It's my understanding -- though I could be wrong -- that connecting an 800 device causes your computer system's FW driver to make the entire FW buss an 800 buss, meaning that some FW 400 devices become immediately incompatible. Can anyone confirm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sun b Posted July 15, 2007 Author Share Posted July 15, 2007 both points taken on board. buffer size is fairly normal and i wouldn't want to increase it by much for obvious reasons. ski, i reckon you may well be right. when i chat with apogee tomorrow that '400 versus 800' question will be my first. good to have your help guys. ps anyone one out there in logicland with apogee experience, i would like to have you views and news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 Sun B, Pssst... [is David around? No? Good!] [You might try posting this question on the Apple/Logic forum as well. I think some people there are using the Apogee] [Ducking out of sight now...] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xs4is Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 But you've attached a FW 800 drive. It's my understanding -- though I could be wrong -- that connecting an 800 device causes your computer system's FW driver to make the entire FW buss an 800 buss, meaning that some FW 400 devices become immediately incompatible. Can anyone confirm? I believe that you have it the other way around. I hear tale that if you have a couple of devices hooked up, like the OP, if one of them is FW 400, then all of them are reduced to that bandwidth. That could explain the "disk to slow" message. Hi ski. X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sun b Posted July 15, 2007 Author Share Posted July 15, 2007 helius alpha you have the same setup? imac intel, lacie drive, and it all works fine with a fireface? 'coz over on the apple board where i posted the topic (like ski suggested) some of the brers are saying no way can you run two firewire devices simultaneously while others are saying they do it no problem. seems to be a lot of confusion. (plus there's a huge squabble over there between apogee and rme fans, check it out! i landed in the middle or at the end really) anyway please enlighten. basically the reason for NOT recording on the same drive logic and plugins are on is so as not to slow that drive down? am i right? has anyone tried linking two imacs? just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski Posted July 15, 2007 Share Posted July 15, 2007 X-man could be right, I might have it backwards. In any event, hopefully a call to Apogee (or an informed reply by an experienced Apogee user) can clear this up for you. Meanwhile, I wrote a bit of a missive on the Apple/Logic forum some time back (where I go by the name "iSchwartz") on the subject of drive use. Here's the link, maybe it'll shed some light on the subject in a general way. http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=4547285 Cheers! -=iS=- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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