dchaiku Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 I know this is a very basic one for you guys. I've been using plug-ins, but now want to use outboard effects on a track. I've got the I/O set up properly, am hearing the effect on the recorded track. Now, how I do "re-record" a new track with the effect done in real time? So I'm guessing when finished, I will have the original track, plus that same track but now with the effect? I've searched the forum, youtube, etc but still not making sense. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 Set the output of your channel strip to a bus. Create a new audio track with that bus selected as the input. R-arm the audio track and press record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchaiku Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 Knew it would be easy - thank you David!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted March 4, 2016 Share Posted March 4, 2016 You're welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchaiku Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 OK, I am obviously not doing something correctly here. I record a kick (call it Track 1), sounds great. Now I want to run that kick through an outboard effect (Roland RE-201 Space Echo). I've already got Bus 5 set up to route through the Space Echo (via Utility->I/O). I set the output of Track 1 as Bus 5. I then set up a new track (Track 2) with Bus 5 as the input. I arm Track 2, hit record, can hear the Space Echo effecting the kick. When I go back to listen, there's no Space Echo on Track 2 - just the unaffected kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 You're routing is messed up. Try this instead. On your kick track use a send to bus 5 and dial in the amount o signal you want to sent to the Space echo. Solo your channel and do a realtime bounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchaiku Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 So File->Bounce->Track in Place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchaiku Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 Not sure if this matters, but I want to mess with the Space Echo on the effected track, meaning, record the track bringing the repeats to near self-oscillation, then back it off, etc. Does a realtime bounce allow for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 So File->Bounce->Track in Place? No. Bounce in Place is never in real time. Choose Bounce Project or section. This is why you have to solo the track (unless it's the only track you've got...). Not sure if this matters, but I want to mess with the Space Echo on the effected track, meaning, record the track bringing the repeats to near self-oscillation, then back it off, etc. Does a realtime bounce allow for this? It works as long as you don't need to change anything within Logic itself. You can also route as David stated above but that will require you to route differently as in your example. You will have to route both the output of your source channel and the output of your aux with the I/O inserted to a new bus (bus x). Create a new audio track and set it's input to bus x. Hit record. Click this link to your signature and add your system information: • Logic version and sub-version (e.g. Logic Pro X 10.2.1) • OS X version and sub-version (e.g. OS X El Capitan 10.11.3) • Computer (e.g. MacBook Pro, Mac Pro, iMac) • Processor (e.g. 2.2 GHz Intel i7) • Memory (e.g. 8GB) • Audio interface manufacturer and model (e.g. RME Babyface Pro) (most of that information can be found by choosing Logic Pro X > About Logic Pro X, and > About This Mac) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchaiku Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 Can't figure out what I'm doing wrong here with David's method. Will try again tonight - not in my studio today. Thanks for the help and I look VERY forward to figuring this one out. I'll add that signature info as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchaiku Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 You will have to route both the output of your source channel and the output of your aux with the I/O inserted to a new bus (bus x). Eric, I finally comprehend what you said. This was my missing step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 That's great. Do you get the recording you wanted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchaiku Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 Well...no. The Space Echo is clipping easily (on the unit itself), and I'm trying to figure out how to get more volume out of it without clipping. So far I've had the most luck throwing a compressor on the aux. I tried my EP-34 Tape Echo plug-in to see if it would have the same issues, and it did. Messing with I/O volume, etc. Aren't you sorry you asked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBaron Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 DACs output a very loud analogue signal. 0 DBfs is too loud for most outboard gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchaiku Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 How would you suggest I go about getting the effected track back to a nice level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted March 9, 2016 Share Posted March 9, 2016 It's all about gain staging when incorporating outboard. Don't be afraid to feed the the delay an average signal of -20 dBFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchaiku Posted March 9, 2016 Author Share Posted March 9, 2016 Interesting...thanks I'll try that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dchaiku Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 Brought signal way down going into Space Echo, brought aux level up quite a bit, and bingo, sounding great! Thank you all for the indispensable 'input' (pun intended). I was in tape delay bliss last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Cardenas Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 You're welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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