fisherking Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) this does NOT happen in my usual template, but... working on a project in a 'virgin' logic file, all imported wavs. i just added a software track, opened the EXS... and sounds a delayed nearly a half-second. i quit & re-opened logic, tried another plugin... problem persists. feel like i'm missing something obvious. anyone? Edited July 24, 2017 by fisherking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Open the Mixer, click the "All" button in the Mixer menu bar and make sure there are no audio effect plug-ins at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 on that track, there is only the EXS... happens on 2 songs where the wav files were imported (after being exported from pro tools). when i open the basic audio template both these songs were compiled into, that template has no delay... the files from protools are just wav files (44/24)... so??? am confused.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 i opened my 'audio files only' template, created a software track, opened pianoteq. no delay. imported the same audio files (to new tracks), no delay. the only thing that seems different is... i'm adding a software track after my audiofiles are imported. but why would that cause profound latency? hmmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 next test: i opened one of the songs i've NOT yet started mixing (so, just 29 tracks of audio); created a software track, opened pianoteq, no crazy latency. so this is only happening on 2 songs that are mixed... ideas welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 What about plugins on the Stereo Out ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 on that track, there is only the EXS... Did you try to follow my instructions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 no plugins on the stereo out. david, when i click "all", i see all my tracks (and their fx plugins), plus what i assume are general midi tracks? okay new test: i DELETED all fx plugins (i AM working on a copy of the file!), and... delay is gone. so... a plugin? a bunch? never has this happen before, but at least, i have some idea where to look)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 david, when i click "all", i see all my tracks (and their fx plugins), plus what i assume are general midi tracks? okay new test: i DELETED all fx plugins (i AM working on a copy of the file!), and... delay is gone. so... a plugin? a bunch? never has this happen before, but at least, i have some idea where to look)... Delete 1/2 the plug-ins. See if the delay is gone. Keep doing that until the delay is gone. This dichotomy method will help you locate the culprit plug-in(s). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 ok. everythings fine... with the first row of effect inserts removed. so... something there... ideas? will explore this, maybe one-by-one (sigh).... EDIT: as you said, david. definitely the thing to do... thanx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 turning them off fixes nothing. but as soon as i delete the entire first row of plugins... all is well (except, of course, i lose all my eqs, etc. i'm gonna try to move everything down a row (but i'd lose some automation on some plugins). hey, it's just a test! still puzzled about why this happens (and in the other mixed song as well...)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 turning them off fixes nothing. That's expected. Any plug-in inducing latency will continue inducing the same latency when turned off. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to automate a plug-in on/off without messing with track synchronization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 got it! the izotope breath plugin (on 2 tracks, but not turned on). am pretty sure this will turn into a 10.3.2/izotope issue (this sort of thing has happened with their plugins previously). either way, am back in business. thanx david, et al. without this forum i'd be on the streets, begging for logic help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 You're welcome! Glad to be of help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 what's amazing is, this got resolved in a few hours, instead of me wrestling with it for days. and i can resume mixing (instead of fixing). how did logic users manage in the 1940s? no internet.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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des99 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 how did logic users manage in the 1940s? no internet.. Well, Logic 1.x, 1993, and we already had an online Logic users mailing list. But no internet for learning Creator/Notator before that, we just had magazines, the manual and what you figured out yourself... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicDrift Posted July 25, 2017 Share Posted July 25, 2017 I think they had the option to buy an add-on plug-in that converted midi notes in the event list into telegram format. Then if they could afford the propriety breakout cable (or best-in-class standalone converter), they could hook onto the phone line, press play and wait for a response....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted July 25, 2017 Author Share Posted July 25, 2017 I think they had the option to buy an add-on plug-in that converted midi notes in the event list into telegram format. Then if they could afford the propriety breakout cable (or best-in-class standalone converter), they could hook onto the phone line, press play and wait for a response....... thankfully, we've moved forward from those dark days, and can, with the aid of our highspeed dialup modems, be online in less than a quarter of an hour (or, with my timewarner cable 9 years ago, get online in a speedy half hour.......)............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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