kerochan Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Hi I just finished writing/recording a theme tune for a TV show, I have took note of gain staging along the way and the Stereo out is showing -6db peaks. Its not crazyly loud in the end Sounds seems fine though, using 2 mics on a guitar cab, bass guitar di and Logic's Drummer triggering EZ Drummer sounds. I have bounced a wav file and I am very happy with it, though as I said its not ear piercingly loud! so I imported that version into a new project and added MultiPressor and Adaptive limiter, to get louder, but I when I play this the louder version on various devices its a bit distorted. Which would be best to send the TV Company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerochan Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 Hi I just finished writing/recording a theme tune for a TV show, I have took note of gain staging along the way and the Stereo out is showing -6db peaks. Its not crazyly loud in the end Sounds seems fine though, using 2 mics on a guitar cab, bass guitar di and Logic's Drummer triggering EZ Drummer sounds. I have bounced a wav file and I am very happy with it, though as I said its not ear piercingly loud! so I imported that version into a new project and added MultiPressor and Adaptive limiter, to get louder, but I when I play this the louder version on various devices its a bit distorted. Which would be best to send the TV Company? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Ask them if they want the distorted version or the clean one. But seriously, if you can't master yourself, get it done elsewhere, but make sure it's mastered. Mastering does not mean "Make it obnoxiously loud with a random Ozone preset", mastering means "Make sure no frequencies that couldn't be heard properly due to the mixing room's acoustics stick out, make sure the frequency- and dynamic-ranges are well balanced. And make absolutely sure its volume meets the client's loudness specifications, in case it gets aired unaltered." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Ask them if they want the distorted version or the clean one. But seriously, if you can't master yourself, get it done elsewhere, but make sure it's mastered. Mastering does not mean "Make it obnoxiously loud with a random Ozone preset", mastering means "Make sure no frequencies that couldn't be heard properly due to the mixing room's acoustics stick out, make sure the frequency- and dynamic-ranges are well balanced. And make absolutely sure its volume meets the client's loudness specifications, in case it gets aired unaltered." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Ask them if they have some audio level guidelines for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Ask them if they have some audio level guidelines for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerochan Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 Ask them if they have some audio level guidelines for you. Just asked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerochan Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 Ask them if they have some audio level guidelines for you. Just asked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Just asked! Please let us know what they answer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Just asked! Please let us know what they answer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerochan Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 Just asked! Please let us know what they answer! Will do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerochan Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 Just asked! Please let us know what they answer! Will do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerochan Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 Thanks! Got an answer and they just said they are incredibly happy with the music, all is fine, no mention of audio guide lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Great! Congratulations. I'm assuming that was the clean version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerochan Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 Great! Congratulations. I'm assuming that was the clean version? I sent both versions David, so I am not really sure which they preferred! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusbur Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 That's great news Kerochan. Could we hear some of your work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerochan Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 Thanks fusbur, rather not show stuff on the forum, cheers anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanRad Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Having written/produced for Film, TV and commercials for 30+ years, I've never had to "Master" anything. Nor been asked to. The only caveat is if you are mixing a final that will go directly to broadcast outlets. Then, you gotta be careful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerochan Posted July 4, 2020 Author Share Posted July 4, 2020 Having written/produced for Film, TV and commercials for 30+ years, I've never had to "Master" anything. Nor been asked to. The only caveat is if you are mixing a final that will go directly to broadcast outlets. Then, you gotta be careful. Hi DanRad This is reassuring thank you In the past I have always recorded at a pro studio and delivered the product to the TV people, I have also never had to master anything. In this instance I done everything at home for the first time, I followed all the gain staging procedures, I tried to get everything perfect at the recording stage too, so there was very little processing to do, and did try to mix as best I could. Everything sounds fine, the problem I have with it is it doesn't have the volume compared with other stuff I have done where I haven't cared about the gain staging or the stereo output being in the red, because I was just writing songs and didn't have the time to worry about levels etc. But with this project I did take care and although the mix is fine, its not loud like other stuff. Having said that, it was recorded in 24 bit 48khz and the TV people are delighted with it, they didn't even mention anything about the volume! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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