Separate (cloned? aliased?) audio regions?

[yeldarb]

Hi, new to LPX, been using GB for a while. A lot of what I do (and most songs AFAICT) is record, say, the chorus and verse sections of the song, and then use the same regions over again. How can I make one section the "master" so that all the other copies of that section are updated when I make a change to that one? The documentation shows how to create separated identical linked MIDI regions (aliases) so I only have to edit one region, but I don't see how to do the same with recorded audio bits (other than creating loops out of them). Is adding loops to the library the way to go?

[djsnake]

Select the audio region and press L, it loops it till the last bar. Then resize it to taste.

[djsnake]

Oh sorry i responded quick i shoulda read the entire question. Well i couldn't understand what you mean by "Master". Looping it allows you to edit only the first region and have the rest of them the same.

[djsnake]

If what you're trying to do is looping and leaving some blank bars here and there; do that. Then select the entire track, all the audio files you looped, moved in that track and press CMD + J, it joins the tracks so that they become one region. But I'm still not sure if that's what you're after.

[yeldarb]

Right, so I want to be able to, say, record the guitar for a verse, and then have that region repeat at various times when I repeat the verse. So if I want to edit or quantize or do whatever to that region, all the other regions that are copies of that region get changed as well. AFAICT if I make a change to a region that change is only reflected in the other regions that are loops directly of that region, not other regions that I've created by option-dragging.

[David Nahmani]

You can Option-Shift-drag an audio region to create a clone. However the linked features between the original and its clone are very limited. The only one I know of is that if you resize the original or one of its clone, the others follow suit.

[yeldarb]

Am I missing something or is Logic? Seems like an essential capability... do other DAWs do this? I haven't committed to LPX, still in trial, though otherwise it seems like a top choice.

[David Nahmani]

I have no idea what other DAWs do, I've committed to Logic decades ago and never looked back. I suppose you may find another DAW that does exactly what you want as far as audio clones are concerned, but a few months later you'll find that they don't do some other essential feature that Logic does.

[David Nahmani]

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[djsnake]

Aight so follow this;

 

Copy your audio file to the desired bars, leave blank spaces, so arrange the track basically.

 

Select all the audio files you copied pasted looped on that track, Hold down CMD and Press J

This will make them all one region. I recommend you to create an empty track or duplicate the existing one and have a backup of those regions.

 

Now that you have one region, do your processing on it. It's a single region after all..

[yeldarb]

Aight so follow this;

 

Copy your audio file to the desired bars, leave blank spaces, so arrange the track basically.

 

Select all the audio files you copied pasted looped on that track, Hold down CMD and Press J

This will make them all one region. I recommend you to create an empty track or duplicate the existing one and have a backup of those regions.

 

Now that you have one region, do your processing on it. It's a single region after all..

 

What processing can I do with this that I can't do on the entire track? Other than that I can move the single region as one piece.

[djsnake]

Double click on it and a window should be opened. Within Functions tab on that window, you can process on Region itself rather than track.

 

I couldn't understand clearly what you're after. Just put the processing plugins on the track and it will affect everything on that track. Making all of the regions one region allows you to apply processing like Time & Pitch Shifting easily instead of doing it one by one. In some cases Time & Pitch Shifting effects all the copy regions aswell. But I'm not sure what you're after. Describe the situation more detailed so i can tell you if that's something i know.

[yeldarb]

Ok, I record a guitar part for the chorus of a song. I then copy the part into the arrangement a few times. Then I notice something I want to fix in the original part, say I want to change the envelope with automation, or cut out a bit. How can I "modularize" the part so that when I make a change to the original it's repeated in the clones? It's a common feature in illustration software, or in video editing software. Seems like it should be a standard feature in DAWs.

[fuzzfilth]

Well, it isn't. Refine your part, then duplicate it.

[djsnake]

Press A, it launches the Automation View. Do your automation and copy and paste it to the desired areas. Choose "Copy" when DAW asks you if you want to copy automation data aswell.

 

You can do what you say with MIDI regions by the way. Double click on a Midi region and press a when the Piano Roll window is selected. It will open up an Automation window exclusive for that region, completely separated from the track. So if you do the automation within that window and copy that region, the entire automation data will be copied automatically, without Logic asking you for anything. But as far as i know this only works with MIDI regions. For audio ones, do your automation and copy the automation, or copy and paste the region and select "Copy" when Logic asks you about it.

[djsnake]

I understood what you say this time, but I'm not sure about how to exactly do it but automation should do the job.