Logic Remote lag

[fromoutwest]

Conceptually, this is fantastic but I find it lags a bit too much to be fully useful. In particular, moving between tracks isn't as instant as using hardware controllers (e.g. Launchpad). Moving too fast builds up lag that can take a few seconds to catch up as well. Further to this, not sure how to stop the Logic plugin window from opening when I select a track. Is there not a way to disable? This contributes to the overall slowness.

 

My setup includes a Mac Mini 2012 (16gb), running LPX 10.6.4 on Catalina with latest Logic Remote on iPad Air g3.

 

Thanks,

Jason

[David Nahmani]

I don't get any lag here. Selecting a channel strip in the Mixer in Logic Remote selects the track on the Mac pretty much instantaneously. I'm not sure what you mean by "moving too fast": what are you moving?

 

No Logic plug-in window opens when I select a track here. Maybe you have an empty linked plug-in window already opened before you select the track?

 

Can you reproduce those issues in a new empty project with only a few tracks? Trying to determine if this is project-specific.

[fromoutwest]

Hi David. To get to the bottom of this, I deleted com.app.logic.pro.cs along with Logic Remote on iPad to see if this changed anything. I also updated to the latest version of iPadOS.

 

Surprisingly, I found it was the install of my Komplete Kontrol S61 Mk2 which changed the behavior of the Logic Remote on iPad to automatically open the plug-in window on track selection. This only happens when selecting via iPad, and not through the keyboard or any other control surfaces. Ironically, it doesn't happen when using Logic Remote via my iPhone either. Don't think I can resolve this one and will have to wait for updates from NI or Apple most likely.

 

Another very odd thing I noticed - the Channel EQ plug-in comes up blank in the Logic Remote. In the mixer view, I can see the curve profile, and even see it moving realtime if changed in Logic directly. If I then open to edit on the iPad, completely blank. All values are 0 and no graph. As noted above, I've re-installed several times with no luck.

 

As for lag, I was just referring to general moving around randomly selecting tracks, moving faders, opening plug-ins etc. Is ok for the first 10 seconds or so then almost if a buffer overflowed, all subsequent clicks in Logic Pro execute at glacial pace with 2-3 seconds between actions. I have to re-start the app. Tried connecting direct through lightning cable too (vs WiFi), same issue. Perhaps some kind of mis-match between my version of Logic and the iPad remote?

[Trancespotter]

I get this lag too.  I’m using Logic Remote (LR) 1.5.3 on an iPad Pro 12.9” 2nd generation with a 2020 iMac Mini M1 8 gb RAM running Monterrey 12.5 and LPX 10.7.5 though I also get the same lag issues on mid-2011 iMac with the latest High Sierra and LPX 10.4. I also tried with an iPad Air 5th generation and same computers.  

The issue is that after about 10-15 minutes of LR running perfectly I’ll notice that the faders on LR simply stop affecting LPX. I’ll swipe up and down on the fader, pans, sends, basically any knob or slider but it doesn’t affect LPX.  Then the LR channel names stop updating properly when swiping through the channels on the mixer. When I tap on a channel in LR it will select a different channel on LPX.  Sometimes some LR faders will be stuck at the bottom of the channel at negative infinity db though LPX shows the fader is at whatever I set it too (not negative infinity db).  The pans for some channels will be hard left.  Other times in the mixer I’ll try to swipe over to another channel but it slingshots me back to where I’m swiping from.  This happens when I use the black bar as well.   Other times some meters simply don’t update properly. Everything else in LR works perfectly fine, it’s just the mixer window that goes wonky.

All of the above craziness sometimes stops after about 5-10 minutes; other times I just give up and come back later.  

I’ve tried restarting the app but it still resumes where it left off. I’ve tried completely restarting my computer and that usually fixes it.

One major thing I noticed is that LR on my iPhone works perfectly the entire time and never bugs out.  The mixer in the LPX template in TouchOSC mk2 also works perfectly the whole time and never bugs out. The only iPad controller that does this crazy lagging for me is LR on iPadOS

[simcc]

Had this same issue over wifi only (cable was fine). Latest Logic/Monterey. Was driving me mad for some time, basically unusable. Same thing that it worked better on my older iPhone X than a new iPad Pro! Haven't tried TouchOSC yet.

I seem to have solved it with some messing with network settings: 

- Mac and iPad Pro on same 5GHz band (channel 36)...all other stuff on another 5GHz/2.4GHz (147/4). (Tri-band AP). (Note it didn't work as well with the Mac/iPad only on the higher 5GHz channel...I've noticed same thing with iPerf tests).

- Flow control off on ethernet switch ports connected to said Access Point and Mac.

- Qos port-based, highest priority to both Mac and AP.

- Airdrop off on Mac, but still on on iPad.

It's nearly as good as a cable now...for faders etc. anyway...even the silly drum kit is playable, though definitely better with cable only.

Edited February 16, 2023 by simcc