Shahram Omidvar Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 Can I request a clean list of the most frequent (not all!) used shortcuts for the above version of Logic please. I want to print it and put it on the wall next to my iMac screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipfunk Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 (edited) Besides the obvious ones (R is Record) a lot of users make their own keystrokes that fit their workflow. Maybe getting a list of the most used shortcut functions would be better? Edited May 28, 2022 by Zipfunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahram Omidvar Posted May 28, 2022 Author Share Posted May 28, 2022 Thanks for the advice. Apple has got a few pages of shortcuts. Functions are more often than not in fact represented in shortcuts. Optimum workflows have got a lot in common. My request was if someone has got a clean and thought through list of shortcuts which are most often used. It is fine if you or other colleagues don't have one, my question is from those who do. There are many options by web browsing and importantly I can make one myself, but I thought to ask Logic members first. Hope that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipfunk Posted May 28, 2022 Share Posted May 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, Shahram Omidvar said: Thanks for the advice. Apple has got a few pages of shortcuts. Functions are more often than not in fact represented in shortcuts. Optimum workflows have got a lot in common. My request was if someone has got a clean and thought through list of shortcuts which are most often used. It is fine if you or other colleagues don't have one, my question is from those who do. There are many options by web browsing and importantly I can make one myself, but I thought to ask Logic members first. Hope that makes sense. I misunderstood your original post but I believe I understand now. But to be sure can you give me an example? I’m assuming you mean things like ‘Split at Playhead’? and other shortcuts that are used frequently? if so, one way I discovered useful shortcuts I had not known was to open the keystroke menu and read through them. If I’m completely off topic with what you are asking for ignore my ramblings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahram Omidvar Posted May 28, 2022 Author Share Posted May 28, 2022 11 hours ago, Zipfunk said: I misunderstood your original post but I believe I understand now. But to be sure can you give me an example? I’m assuming you mean things like ‘Split at Playhead’? and other shortcuts that are used frequently? if so, one way I discovered useful shortcuts I had not known was to open the keystroke menu and read through them. If I’m completely off topic with what you are asking for ignore my ramblings. You are clearly trying to help me and I thank you for that. Apple has got the key commands as per this link: https://support.apple.com/en-au/guide/logicpro/lgcp02bf31b6/mac Attached is also an option for a similar purpose in a much more condensed form. What I am looking for is something in between but coming from experiences to make the use of the software and workflow easier. It is clear that different users may have respective requirements but I am referring to what can be categorised as common. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 20 hours ago, Shahram Omidvar said: What I am looking for is something in between but coming from experiences to make the use of the software and workflow easier. It is clear that different users may have respective requirements but I am referring to what can be categorized as common. That sounds like a great idea. I'll try to find some time to see if I can do something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahram Omidvar Posted May 29, 2022 Author Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, David Nahmani said: That sounds like a great idea. I'll try to find some time to see if I can do something like that. Wonderful, David. That would be very helpful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzfilth Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 Like others, I'm not sure how these are useful without knowing the actual workflow in which they are useful, but here goes, minus the obvious ones (Play, Record, Cycle, Metronome, etc.): Capture as Recording and Play Play from Left Window Edge Play from Selection Go to Selection Start Go to Selection End Recall Screenset 1-99 Open Environment… 😛 Open in External Sample Editor Enable/Disable Groups Select Previous Track Select Next Track Catch Playhead Position Show/Hide Inspector New Track with Duplicate Settings New Track with Same Channel Strip/Instrument Select All Following Select All Following of Same Track/Pitch Join Regions/Notes Split Regions/Events at Playhead Position Transpose Region/Event +1 Semitone or Nudge Automation up 1 Step Transpose Region/Event -1 Semitone or Nudge Automation down 1 Step Move Region/Event to Playhead Position (Pickup Clock) Set Region/Event/Marquee Start to Playhead Position Set Region/Event/Marquee End to Playhead Position Nudge Region/Event Position Right by Tick Nudge Region/Event Position Left by Tick Nudge Region/Event Position Right by SMPTE Frame Nudge Region/Event Position Left by SMPTE Frame Nudge Region/Event Position Right by 1/2 SMPTE Frame Nudge Region/Event Position Left by 1/2 SMPTE Frame Mute Notes/Regions/Cells/Folders On/Off Shuffle Left Shuffle Right Bounce… Create 2 Track Automation Points at Region Borders Create Folder Stack Create Summing Stack Bounce Regions/Cells in Place Bounce Tracks in Place Drum Replacement/Doubling Hide/Show Selected Track(s) Cut Section Between Locators (Global) Separate MIDI Region by Note Pitch Convert Regions to New Audio Files… Normalize Region/Cell Gain… Trim Region End to Next Region Trim Region Start to Previous Region Drag Mode: Overlap Drag Mode: No Overlap Drag Mode: Shuffle L Drag Mode: Shuffle R Copy Value to All Following Events Shift selected Zone(s)/Group(s) Left (Zones incl. Root Key) Shift selected Zone(s)/Group(s) Right (Zones incl. Root Key) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Featured Comment David Nahmani Posted May 30, 2022 Featured Comment Share Posted May 30, 2022 Ok here's version 1.0 - let me know how you like it. Key Commands PDF.pdf 7 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahram Omidvar Posted May 31, 2022 Author Share Posted May 31, 2022 On 5/30/2022 at 9:00 PM, David Nahmani said: Ok here's version 1.0 - let me know how you like it. It is great, David. Over time we may be able to adjust the content a bit here or there, but it is already a great reference. On my wall as intended too! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Some people may find keyboard layout skins useful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 5 hours ago, Shahram Omidvar said: On my wall as intended too! Great! Good to see you're putting my work to good use already. 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
memokero Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 and you can use logic remote or old mackie mcu (in logic mode) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin7 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 6:40 AM, Shahram Omidvar said: Can I request a clean list of the most frequent (not all!) used shortcuts for the above version of Logic please. I want to print it and put it on the wall next to my iMac screen. There are so many sneaky cool ones that get half forgotten because I don’t use them in my workflow enough. But, for me, I would recommend starting with - C (cycle range on/off) A (automation view) R (record) and ctl M (mute - which I’ve changed to just M). CMD , gets you into your global preferences to fiddle around with your audio buffering etc. CMD b to bounce and CMD q to turn off Logic and go to sleep. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahram Omidvar Posted June 12, 2022 Author Share Posted June 12, 2022 12 hours ago, memokero said: and you can use logic remote or old mackie mcu (in logic mode) Not quite sure if I follow what you are referring to, but thanks for for reply anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahram Omidvar Posted June 12, 2022 Author Share Posted June 12, 2022 1 hour ago, martin7 said: There are so many sneaky cool ones that get half forgotten because I don’t use them in my workflow enough. That’s true. It comes to how consistent we use the shortcuts to make our work flow more efficient. My own experience is that spending more time to set up things and the main themes right at the beginning is the key to reducing the legwork and as for the shortcuts best is to have some natural connection to their functions so that you don’t have to memories things (for instance “command + c” is a good and “command + v” is a bad example in this context) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin7 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 47 minutes ago, Shahram Omidvar said: That’s true. It comes to how consistent we use the shortcuts to make our work flow more efficient. My own experience is that spending more time to set up things and the main themes right at the beginning is the key to reducing the legwork and as for the shortcuts best is to have some natural connection to their functions so that you don’t have to memories things (for instance “command + c” is a good and “command + v” is a bad example in this context) Indeed. I try to use that mnemonic problem to make it so ridiculous it becomes easy to remember for cool but not often used commands. For example - V (show/hides plugs) I use a lot, so Ive assigned all the modifier keys + V (⌃⌥⌘V) to Remove all Bypassed Plugins. A profligate use of modifier keys but it means my old sticky brain has an easier/quicker journey to make to a great command I don't use a lot . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 21 hours ago, Shahram Omidvar said: Not quite sure if I follow what you are referring to, but thanks for for reply anyway. I suppose that @memokero means that you can use the Logic Remote to customize your iPad with a screen with pads that trigger key commands. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrockrover Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 On 5/28/2022 at 6:40 AM, Shahram Omidvar said: Can I request a clean list of the most frequent (not all!) used shortcuts for the above version of Logic please. I want to print it and put it on the wall next to my iMac screen. Am I right in thinking that you are looking for a "greatest hits/top 20" kind of list? Ones that people use day in day out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahram Omidvar Posted November 4, 2022 Author Share Posted November 4, 2022 10 hours ago, shamrockrover said: Am I right in thinking that you are looking for a "greatest hits/top 20" kind of list? Ones that people use day in day out? Not really. I was referring to most frequent command shortcuts available which could be accessed using the keys or combination of keys on computer keyboard. @David Nahmani provided a good condensed list in response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonshu Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) 25 years ago, someone gave me the tip to print out all keycommands (in the Key Commands window: Copy Keycommands to Clipboard -> Paste into text editor) and just put that next to the toilet. Not to memorise any of them or their assignments but just to see what kind of functions are available and think about what those functions could be used for and then think about which ones to incorporate into my workflow. Or adjust my workflow according to the functions available. Best tip I ever got. It involves taking charge yourself though and perhaps even changing some old habits. Luckily I didn't have to change habits as I was doing this when I started using Logic from scratch without any preconceptions. Edited November 4, 2022 by wonshu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) There are indeed many available key commands which don’t have their menu commands equivalent. That demonstrates how Logic is a very deep software that goes far beyond what it looks like. I would guess that there are menu commands that don’t have key commands equivalents (?)… OTOH some of key commands aren’t that obvious to understand what they actually do or where/when to use them. On top of that, I’ve read here that few aren’t working. So it makes for the naive user I am confused and unsure how to decipher if a key command isn’t working or if I’m just using it inappropriately… Not to mention that sometimes (rather not often though) the key commands assignments are changing with new Logic versions. I personally think that learning all the available key commands is very time consuming and most likely not rewarding enough to justify such an endeavour if your primary intent while using Logic is to make/produce music. Nevertheless, if a task in Logic is to be (often) repeated, it is a must to find out the related key command (key command combination) to achieve the sought result. Investing time in learning to use them naturally will definitely prove to ease tremendously your workflow and somehow also mold same over time. In short the more you use key commands in your workflow the more same becomes efficient. My 2 cents… Edited November 4, 2022 by Atlas007 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahram Omidvar Posted November 5, 2022 Author Share Posted November 5, 2022 12 hours ago, Atlas007 said: My 2 cents… Thanks @Atlas007 for your considered response. I knew the generic answer to my question but it was best answered by @David Nahmanimonths back. I don’t understand why it is being attended to any more. I respect your time though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Shahram Omidvar said: I don’t understand why it is being attended to any more. Forums are made for the attendees to read and/or post. That is a place to voice/exchange views/opinions which could eventually enlighten others. You will probably encounter topics which last reply is many years old and then someone will post something. There was no intention on my part to hijack this topic you initiated. Just wanted to voice my opinion... Edited November 5, 2022 by Atlas007 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Yes it's all good: sometimes someone asks a question and that triggers a discussion that goes beyond the intention of the original poster, that's what is great about forum discussions, and where we all end up gaining a lot of knowledge. 😄 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrockrover Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 hour ago, David Nahmani said: Yes it's all good: sometimes someone asks a question and that triggers a discussion that goes beyond the intention of the original poster, that's what is great about forum discussions, and where we all end up gaining a lot of knowledge. 😄 Indeed 🙂 It was me who restarted the thread. I haven't been here for a while and was just going through the "Tips and Tricks" to see if anything of interest came up. Just from the wording of the original question I thought you were looking for a "best of" or a greatest hits type list,( Most frequent, I think was the term used) which I would have been curious about, just to see if there were ones I was missing out on that are frequently used by other members. No intention on my part to cause upset to anybody, just being curious I guess 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingminotaur Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 On 5/30/2022 at 9:00 PM, David Nahmani said: Ok here's version 1.0 - let me know how you like it. Key Commands PDF.pdf 112.95 kB · 95 downloads Excellent and compact. Is there such a thing as "copy marquee selection". Great for covering up mistakes! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 19 minutes ago, kingminotaur said: Is there such a thing as "copy marquee selection". Great for covering up mistakes! Yes, you can use Command-C and Command-V with the Marquee selection, I do it all the time to replace a mistake in a section with a piece from another section without the mistake. Marquee select, Command-C, Marquee click where you want to paste, Command-V. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoPro Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 Great thanks David ! I’m really trying and experimenting more with key commands now. Too much clicking otherwise …. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 2 hours ago, NoPro said: Great thanks David ! I’m really trying and experimenting more with key commands now. Too much clicking otherwise …. Definitely, key commands are a great workflow speed enhancer! It's surprising how much time we tend to waste trying to point at things with mice, trackpads or other input devices when some of the functionalities are available right under our fingertips. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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