Mnelson7045 Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 I have just recently been having crashes when trying to mix down a song. It says " disk to slow" overload. I only store my songs on my HD . Is it trying to pull the song off the drive when I am playing back? This never happened before. Its a 5TB drive Seagate. I have mixed a 32 track session with no overloads last week and I had no problems. Is there something I have wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 have you tried rebooting? sometimes a reboot, then opening ONLY logic and going back to work helps (i did this a lot on my previous macbook pro...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Mnelson7045 said: It says " disk to slow" overload. Did you check Logic's performance meter to see if it's the CPU peaking or the I/O when you get that message? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipfunk Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 1 hour ago, fisherking said: have you tried rebooting? sometimes a reboot, then opening ONLY logic and going back to work helps (i did this a lot on my previous macbook pro...) This fixes my issues almost every time. mid your drive SSD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted May 29, 2022 Share Posted May 29, 2022 15 minutes ago, Zipfunk said: This fixes my issues almost every time. mid your drive SSD? am fine on my current imac, but on my previous macbook pro (with, yes, an SSD), i got those messages periodically. i found that rebooting, and opening no other apps helped enormously. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 15 hours ago, Mnelson7045 said: Its a 5TB drive Seagate. How much free space is available on the drive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnelson7045 Posted May 30, 2022 Author Share Posted May 30, 2022 very little is on the drive. I did not mention that its a mech drive not SSD. I just want to keep my songs on the 5TB drive, but now it seems like it is pulling from the drive. This drive should be off when playing back music correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnelson7045 Posted May 30, 2022 Author Share Posted May 30, 2022 What does Mid your drive SSD mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipfunk Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 26 minutes ago, Mnelson7045 said: What does Mid your drive SSD mean? That should have read Is your drive SSD? Sorry for the fat thumbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnelson7045 Posted May 30, 2022 Author Share Posted May 30, 2022 No, its a 5TB one touch platter style. I only wanted to store my songs on it. Not to have issues when i try to mix. Do I need to transfer the song from the external to the Mac internal , Mix and then return to the external drive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 35 minutes ago, Mnelson7045 said: No, its a 5TB one touch platter style. How is the drive formatted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnelson7045 Posted May 30, 2022 Author Share Posted May 30, 2022 I am purchasing a SSD drive that will help with mixing large sessions. Should i put the library of virtual instruments on it to keep things easier on the mac? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnelson7045 Posted May 30, 2022 Author Share Posted May 30, 2022 I did not format, rats , what is the correct format? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 Just now, Mnelson7045 said: I did not format, rats , what is the correct format? APFS. Keep in mind formatting is erasing all the data on the drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mnelson7045 said: I did not format, rats , what is the correct format? If the drive is formatted ExFat, there's your problem. It's a Windows format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnelson7045 Posted May 30, 2022 Author Share Posted May 30, 2022 But , even after formatting, is this drive to slow for mixing. Or should this be off and on only when I am backing up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Mnelson7045 said: But , even after formatting, is this drive to slow for mixing. Or should this be off and on only when I am backing up. If the drive spins at 5400 rpm, it's only good for backups. What computer do you have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnelson7045 Posted May 30, 2022 Author Share Posted May 30, 2022 Should I use time machine or just back up the songs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnelson7045 Posted May 30, 2022 Author Share Posted May 30, 2022 mac mini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted May 30, 2022 Share Posted May 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Mnelson7045 said: mac mini What do you have as an internal HD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Is it a 5400 or 7200 rpm HDD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnelson7045 Posted May 31, 2022 Author Share Posted May 31, 2022 its 130 Mbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mnelson7045 said: its 130 Mbs You probably mean 1030MB/s In any case you shouldn't have those issues with that drive. How many audio tracks does your song have? What is the sample rate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonshu Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 22 hours ago, David Nahmani said: APFS. Keep in mind formatting is erasing all the data on the drive. Everyone everywhere seems to say that APFS should not be used on rotating harddrives. APFS works best for SSDs. HFS+ for HDDs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, wonshu said: Everyone everywhere seems to say that APFS should not be used on rotating harddrives. APFS works best for SSDs. HFS+ for HDDs Indeed it's still a hot debate on the interwebs. Lots of people say that HFS+ should be used for HDDs although Apple says you can use APFS on HDDs and I've heard from a lot of people using APFS on HDDs that they had zero problems. Here's a recent discussion on MacRumors: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apfs-or-macos-extended-for-hdd.2336680/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mnelson7045 Posted May 31, 2022 Author Share Posted May 31, 2022 song has 32 tracks lots of plugins, but I just mixed another one 2 days ago without any issues. I reformatted the HD and ran the song off of the internal drive with no issues. I will just use that drive as a backup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 Just now, Mnelson7045 said: I will just use that drive as a backup Alright sounds like a plan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, David Nahmani said: Indeed it's still a hot debate on the interwebs. Lots of people say that HFS+ should be used for HDDs although Apple says you can use APFS on HDDs and I've heard from a lot of people using APFS on HDDs that they had zero problems. Here's a recent discussion on MacRumors: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apfs-or-macos-extended-for-hdd.2336680/ my (4) external drives are for storage, archiving... and all APFS, all platter drives... and no issues with that... at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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