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'No Output' tracks appear in Arrange view. What are these?


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I suddenly have random tracks appearing in my arrange view window (see grab); each is called No Output and they don't seem to be connected to anything and don't appear in the mixer. But if you change the icon on one, they all change even if only one is selected. What are they? And why do they appear? I've never seen this behaviour before. Thanks for any enlightenment.

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They are tracks that are not assigned to a channel strip or any other object in Logic's MIDI Environment. Because there's only one single "No Output" object in a project, all of them share the same icon. 

How did you get to that point? What happened? 

In any case you can safely delete those tracks.

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This happens e.g. if you delete the channel strip associated with a track. As every track needs to be associated with exactly one object in the environment (you know, the window that is opened when you press Cmd-0), the track is associated with the "No Output" object instead (and there is only one No Output object, as David already pointed out). So, did you delete any channel strips, maybe?

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1 minute ago, polanoid said:

BTW "No Output" tracks can indeed be handy sometimes, if you want to park content on them which you don't actually want to be played back.

Indeed, I do this a lot.

And for the people that don't realise, you can reassign the track object on any track by control/right-clicking on the track header and going through the "Reassign track ->" menus to choose a different environment object for that track...

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18 minutes ago, David Nahmani said:

How did you get to that point? What happened?

I have absolutely no idea! I may have deleted a channel strip (or four) in the mixer but don't recall doing this. I guess it might have been effect buses or something that automatically opened with a Logic patch which I might not have wanted? Would deleting those do it?

I've just reopened a project alternative where I'd been only working in the mixer so I hadn't even noticed they'd appeared til I went back to do some more recording.

Thanks so much for all the speedy replies, good to know I can delete them with no damage done.

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