Quicksampler questions [SOLVED]

[Danny Wyatt]

Read the UPDATE below for the answers and some tips

I'm finally starting to use Quicksampler a bit more and I have a few questions:

1 - What does the Copy Pattern mean on the menu on the top right?

2 - When in SLICE mode, when I hover over the bottom section of a sample or loop, the cursor turns into an arrow pointing to the right. I click and drag, it shows a second image like this >< but when I drag left and right, it doesn't seem to do anything. What is this for?

UPDATE
For those interested in knowing this, basically they both do the same thing, but just a different approach. Copy Pattern then go to the Tracks area and paste it. It will create a MIDI region with that loop and each transient marker will define a new MIDI note. They will all be shown one after another, like so:

The length and position will depend on how you set your transients.

The drag option (using the lower part of the sample/loop) will do the same thing, just without going to the menu. Just drag and drop into the Tracks area.

TIP: If you want the notes to occupy the whole MIDI region, left to right, use the Beat Divisions mode. If you use the Equal Divisions mode, you will get something like this:

 

The trick is to play with that setting, but then adjusting the Snap at the top, then adjust the start and end markers to tweak everything

 

Edited June 23 by Danny Wyatt

[des99]

(1) If you turn on Quick Help it says:

"Copy MIDI Pattern
Analyzes and copies slice markers to the Clipboard. You can paste the Clipboard contents to a MIDI or instrument track as a new MIDI region."

(2) "Create MIDI Region
Drag to a software instrument, Drummer, Drum Machine Designer, or MIDI track."

You can't move a slice marker from the lower section, you need to do that from the upper section. The lower thing you see is the create MIDI region function because you can't drag/drop that slice to other areas but for example, you can drag it out of QS to a MIDI track... though I confess I don't really know what this is intended for, I guess it creates a MIDI note that triggers that slice only, but I haven't checked...

Edited June 21 by des99

[David Nahmani]

31 minutes ago, des99 said:

though I confess I don't really know what this is intended for, I guess it creates a MIDI note that triggers that slice only, but I haven't checked...

I have an exercice about this in my book, it actually recreates the pattern of MIDI notes inside a MIDI Region to trigger the slices at the right position, in the right order, so that you can then manipulate their position or order as MIDI notes. 

So for example if your sample goes Poum Chak, then C1 is assigned to Poum and C#1 to Chak, then it creates a MIDI region with C1 where Poum plays and C#1 where Chak plays. 

[des99]

Ah ok, so it's not just exporting that slice you drag from, it's exporting *all* the slices (probably the same kind of thing as Copy MIDI pattern). Thanks for the update...

[David Nahmani]

Just now, des99 said:

(probably the same kind of thing as Copy MIDI pattern).

Yes, in fact it's exactly the same thing. 

[Danny Wyatt]

On 6/21/2022 at 4:09 PM, David Nahmani said:

I have an exercice about this in my book, it actually recreates the pattern of MIDI notes inside a MIDI Region to trigger the slices at the right position, in the right order, so that you can then manipulate their position or order as MIDI notes. 

So for example if your sample goes Poum Chak, then C1 is assigned to Poum and C#1 to Chak, then it creates a MIDI region with C1 where Poum plays and C#1 where Chak plays. 

This is exactly what I was looking fore recently and didn't know the QS could do it. It's going to be very useful... if it works as expected, which right now seems it isn't. Maybe you can clarify?

So I set the Mode to Equal and to 8 slices. Doing the math, it would create a MIDI region with 8 MIDI notes, spreading across the whole MIDI region, since they are all 8 slices, equal length. But this is what I get:
 

I tried other options and they all seem to stop at the same place, except for one that extended longer than 1 bar.

Here's the settings:

 

Am I missing something here?

[Danny Wyatt]

@David Nahmani

Never mind. I understand how it works now. I had to put it as Beat instead of Equal. It's working now. So you were saying that dragging with that arrow icon or Copy Pattern, does the same thing, right?

[David Nahmani]

2 minutes ago, Danny Wyatt said:

So you were saying that dragging with that arrow icon or Copy Pattern, does the same thing, right?

Yes, same thing.

[Danny Wyatt]

22 minutes ago, David Nahmani said:

Yes, same thing.

Great. Thanks! This, combined with the function to Randomize notes up and down, is a great tool to create new combinations of loops. I've been doing this for a while, but now with the QS everything is so much easier!

Edited June 23 by Danny Wyatt

[David Nahmani]

I really love Quick Sampler, it's an amazing tool, much quicker and easier to set up than Sampler when you just want to do some quick sampling work. 😀

[Danny Wyatt]

1 minute ago, David Nahmani said:

I really love Quick Sampler, it's an amazing tool, much quicker and easier to set up than Sampler when you just want to do some quick sampling work. 😀

For real!

One thing I wish Apple would implement once and for all, is a way to load samples / loops that are on the same folder as the one currently loaded and then have previous/next arrows to load the previous/next sample/loop, without making any changes to the transients or anything.

And taking a step further, it would allow a modifier to randomize the sample/loop on that same folder, so instead of just loading the previous/next audio file, it would a random one. Nerve has that feature and I wish it was available in Logic as well.