PP1965 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Last week I bought bx_bluechorus2 from Plugin Alliance. Now I have a strange experience: in vain I add a stereo instance of this plugin to my effect chain, I get mono output. I have checked it with a goniometer as well, the signal sounds mono. If I add any other kind of chorus effect to the effect chain (UAD CE-1 or Dimension D, etc), it sounds in stereo without any problem. I have raised a support ticket at PA but unfortunately I haven't received any answer yet. Any idea would be greatly appreciated to solve this issue. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) Turn the mix control fully left - you should hear the original stereo track if you've placed it on a stereo signal. It works here as expected, and it doesn't turn a stereo signal into a mono one... Are you sure you haven't force inserted it as a mono plugin? Edited July 7, 2022 by des99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP1965 Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 Yes, I'm sure. Please find the attached screenshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fusbur Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Make sure the other plug-ins in the chain aren't mono? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP1965 Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) Yes, Distressor is a stereo plugin instance as well. Gain and Clarity are switched off, but those are stereo instances too. Edited July 7, 2022 by PP1965 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) 58 minutes ago, PP1965 said: Yes, I'm sure. Please find the attached screenshot. Hmm, I don't see that behaviour here. Can you try on a simple empty test project, with just that plugin on a stereo track - do you still get the same behaviour? Also - what version of the plugin are you running? Latest is 1.10.1... And if you could answer my question regarding the mix control - do you hear a mono signal or a stereo signal when the mix is fully 0% wet? Here's a stereo test oscillator panned from side to side, with a meter, then bx_chorus, then another meter: Edited July 7, 2022 by des99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP1965 Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 I tried it in a new project on a single stereo track as you asked. I added a stereo piano loop and added only this chorus plugin. If I turn Mix 0% wet, the signal remains stereo, it works perfectly. If I use it on a stereo guitar input signal, the chorused sound will be mono. This makes no sense.. I use the latest plugin version, 1.10.1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, PP1965 said: If I turn Mix 0% wet, the signal remains stereo, it works perfectly. Ok, so the dry stereo is going in... 5 minutes ago, PP1965 said: If I use it on a stereo guitar input signal, the chorused sound will be mono. I'd say the image collapses a bit, there may well be crossfeed between channels of the chorus possibly (this is the first time I've played with this plugin), so with the chorus faded in the sound may not feel as wide - but I definitely don't get mono here (as demonstrated in the video above.) Edited July 7, 2022 by des99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP1965 Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 Maybe I should try to uninstall and reinstall the plugin. I will give it a try. des99, thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 2 hours ago, PP1965 said: Maybe I should try to uninstall and reinstall the plugin. I will give it a try. I doubt reinstalling will make any difference. Instead, try to replicate des99's test with goniometers and see what result you're getting? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PP1965 Posted July 9, 2022 Author Share Posted July 9, 2022 (edited) Hi David, Sorry for the late feedback, I was too busy. I did that experiment and I got the same result as des99. What I think now that although I use this plugin in stereo mode, it has really poor stereo effect, actually sounds like a mono plugin. There is no real and wide stereo image. Comparing to UAD's CE-1, the difference is so huge. I think I will ask for a refund. Moreover they haven't reacted to my support ticket either. Edited July 9, 2022 by PP1965 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted July 9, 2022 Share Posted July 9, 2022 2 hours ago, PP1965 said: What I think now that although I use this plugin in stereo mode, it has really poor stereo effect, actually sounds like a mono plugin. Got it, thanks for updating this with your findings. Hopefully they'll honor the refund you've asked and you can find a better plug-in for the task. 😀 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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