Why is the piano roll scaling my midi velocities

[the sinner]

I just upgraded from a much older version and then piano window (velocities) is driving me crazy

If you play a piano performance, select the velocities, compress them a bit by dragging down, then up to restore the dynamic 

why is it taking out my downwards compression?  

I want to move all velocities up by X amount - not scale things according to logic's whim 

[Atlas007]

Not sure to understand your method of velocity compression...

There are different ways one could modify (compress) velocities. Have you tried one of the following?

• Transformer function (likely a user preset)
• Modifier MIDI plugin
• Region parameters (Velocities and/or Dynamics)
• Track parameters (Velocity and/or Velocity (Vel) Limit sliders)
• Directly (mouse scrolling) from within the Event list editor
• there might other methods

[the sinner]

https://hollywoodscoring.box.com/s/b2p6ukozsa3ntx0ivfmjpu53lzaqtbln

 

video above

 

going back to Logic 7 - if you selected all nodes and dragged down (while holding) it would compress the velocities (it still does this) than I switch over to velocity tool and bring them back up to the initial level

 

old logic: preserves the shape of the notes 

new logic: re-expands the notes 

 

In fact is there anyway to even select a group of notes and increase their velocity uniformly? 

 

Logic has been behaving in the old way for maybe 15 years, is this a bug?

[FLH3]

In order to compress the dynamic, by hand,  then increase the global velocity you have to use the horizontal slider located at your left in the piano roll or use the +/- velocity setting in the track parameter.

 

Edited July 29, 2022 by FLH3

[ozinga]

If I understand you right,

first hold and drag down the notes so they become closer,

then use the velocity slider on the piano roll inspector to raise them uniformly

edit: you can also do (after selecting all the notes)by holding control+command to get the temp velocity tool on a note(not the velocity point at the bottom but the actual note) and drag it up

Another thing is, if you want all velocities to be equal hold shift+option and drag velocity slider.

Edited July 29, 2022 by ozinga

[the sinner]

20 hours ago, FLH3 said:

In order to compress the dynamic, by hand,  then increase the global velocity you have to use the horizontal slider located at your left in the piano roll or use the +/- velocity setting in the track parameter.

yes this seems to be the only place to do it - 

i can't understand why they would change that after 10+ years of the other method 

[the sinner]

16 hours ago, ozinga said:

If I understand you right,

first hold and drag down the notes so they become closer,

then use the velocity slider on the piano roll inspector to raise them uniformly

edit: you can also do (after selecting all the notes)by holding control+command to get the temp velocity tool on a note(not the velocity point at the bottom but the actual note) and drag it up

Another thing is, if you want all velocities to be equal hold shift+option and drag velocity slider.

The control + command does not work in the bottom window of the piano roll editor 

[ozinga]

1 hour ago, the sinner said:

The control + command does not work in the bottom window of the piano roll editor 

Yes I mentioned that in my post.

18 hours ago, ozinga said:

(not the velocity point at the bottom but the actual note)

 

[David Nahmani]

21 hours ago, ozinga said:

you can also do (after selecting all the notes)by holding control+command to get the temp velocity tool on a note(not the velocity point at the bottom but the actual note) and drag it up

You can also drag the notes with the Velocity tool.