ozkanozmen Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 After upgrading to 16GB M1 mac Mini Monterey 12.5.1 used in Rosetta mode, 4 high performance cores selected at settings. I have way more often freezes and crashes. The crashes I have are sudden and I dont even see the beachball. I used a 2014 Mac Mini i7 3.40 Ghz Catalina with older Logic and frequency of crashes were far less. Should I skip Rosetta mode? Should I select the auto core selection vs high performance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 are you using plugins that require rosetta? are you working from a template? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozkanozmen Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 Thank you for your reply! I don't use templates. 3 of my plugins are rosetta requiring. Scaler 2, IK Multimedia Arc and A Stock Synth from Akai.(Hybrid it is called I guess). Ps: Before enabling Rosetta mode, I used a Terminal command, that forces to validate plugins, because auva tool would not validate them. So they validated without needing to be in Rosetta mode. This is how I did it. See the youtube video below , it is hard to explain. Yeah, I paid 8 bugs for this. Could this terminal command be the reason? Or skip Rosetta mode? I am confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 you installed rosetta on your mac? rosetta 2 otherwise.. not sure (u run logic on an intel mac). maybe someone else here has thoughts... good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozkanozmen Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 No, I only enabled Logic to rosetta mode. Applications -get info- enable - tick Rosetta mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 then you must have installed rosetta at some point; it can't run if it's not installed (unless there's something in that video? i did not watch it...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 When you get crashes, post the first section of the crash log. That will point to the cause - you might have one or more badly behaving third-party plugins, for example, and getting rid of them will stabilise your system. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozkanozmen Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 Thank you so much! Will do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogika Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Forcing Logic to validate plugins that fail validation is an absolutely surefire path to crashing and an unstable system. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozkanozmen Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 (edited) Thank you for your reply. I will revert back then. Boy, is she sentitive Edited August 22, 2022 by ozkanozmen typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogika Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, ozkanozmen said: Thank you for your reply. I will revert back then. Boy, is she sentitive You cannot revert an M1 Mac mini to anything older than Big Sur. The way to go is to make a list of ALL your vital plug-ins and check for compatibility with Monterey/Apple Silicon. It's fine if things are only compatible via Rosetta. People are giving that WAY too much thought. BUT: stuff needs to be explicitly compatible, and you need to be running those versions. Virtually everything has been updated or certified by now — notable exceptions being some AIR Music stuff, and some Waldorf stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozkanozmen Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 Thank you, will do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgman Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, analogika said: Forcing Logic to validate plugins that fail validation is an absolutely surefire path to crashing and an unstable system. Maybe, but I'd do it again in a heartbeat if it was as easy as it used to be on/off. I find Logic is too heavy handed on rejecting plugins that work perfectly fine otherwise and in other DAW's as well. Edited August 23, 2022 by xgman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, xgman said: I find Logic is too heavy handed on rejecting plugins that work perfectly fine otherwise and in other DAW's as well. The point of validation is to define and enforce a minimum standard to which plugin developers can develop against. If plugins aren't validating because a developer can't be bothered to make their plugins validate successfully, that doesn't inspire much confidence in those developers - especially for commercial products in the AU format for Mac, not passing validation in the platform vendor's own flagship DAW on that platform. Similarly, if the plugins are too old and thus aren't compliant with the current validation standards, they *might* work OK some, or all of the time, they might not. At least Logic *will* let you run them if you choose too (after it complains), but given the unpredictability in plugins crashing hosts in the early days, implementing such a minimum standard seems like a worthwhile idea to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogika Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, xgman said: Maybe, but I'd do it again in a heartbeat if it was as easy as it used to be on/off. I find Logic is too heavy handed on rejecting plugins that work perfectly fine otherwise and in other DAW's as well. I'd always err on the side of not crashing a production. Enough potential for things to go wrong in the studio as it is. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tremo Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 1:00 PM, ozkanozmen said: Thank you for your reply! I don't use templates. 3 of my plugins are rosetta requiring. Scaler 2, IK Multimedia Arc and A Stock Synth from Akai.(Hybrid it is called I guess). The lastest version of Scaler 2 -- 2.6 I think -- is Apple Silicon ready, so if you update/upgrade it you won't need Rosetta for that plug at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozkanozmen Posted August 23, 2022 Author Share Posted August 23, 2022 Hi everyone! Applications- right click on logic- get info- turn Rosetta off. No more crashes. Thank yall! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogika Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 1 minute ago, ozkanozmen said: Hi everyone! Applications- right click on logic- get info- turn Rosetta off. No more crashes. Thank yall! In other words: deactivate all the plugins that previously failed validation, along with those that require Rosetta, but work fine. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambird Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Didn't read the whole thread just wanted to give my 2 cents. I got better performance using all 8 cores and honestly. This Mac is insane. I can load like my Newfangled elevate in 7.1.4 without overloading and had 1 crash so far. Also set the process buffer range to large. Sorry if sb already mentioned this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozkanozmen Posted August 27, 2022 Author Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rambird said: Didn't read the whole thread just wanted to give my 2 cents. I got better performance using all 8 cores and honestly. This Mac is insane. I can load like my Newfangled elevate in 7.1.4 without overloading and had 1 crash so far. Also set the process buffer range to large. Sorry if sb already mentioned this Thank you! I used Logic in Rosetta Mode. That was the main reason of the crashes. But now it is fine.I choose 8 cores too. (4 high performence option) How about you? Edited August 27, 2022 by ozkanozmen Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambird Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 Yeah runs insanely good in both modes for me same settings. The only issue I had was mouse lag but it turns out that was interference 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunted Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Hello, I have more or less the same problem. Have downloaded the free-trial version (10.7.5) and every time I try to edit some track (actually it happened in different times and even without editing) Logic crashes (see the attached video). It's a Macbook Pro - Apple M1 Pro - 16gb - 10 core I've tried to run with and without Rosetta but nothing changed. Could you please help or at least suggest me some tips? Thanks a lot! 2023-02-08 alle 12.06.08.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozkanozmen Posted February 8, 2023 Author Share Posted February 8, 2023 (edited) Hi! The only thing I can suggest is: to check your 3rd party plug ins if you have. Use it in normal mode, Rosetta is more prone to crashes. Edited February 8, 2023 by ozkanozmen typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunted Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, ozkanozmen said: Hi! The only thing I can suggest is: to check your 3rd party plug ins if you have. Use it in normal mode, Rosetta is more prone to crashes. Thanks for the reply! I've already tried to check for the plug ins.. it's quite weird because I'm using all the same stuff on Ableton Live and nothing happens. Then, working on Logic, it crashes x_x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 1 hour ago, bunted said: it's quite weird because I'm using all the same stuff on Ableton Live and nothing happens. Then, working on Logic, it crashes x_x Every DAW reacts different to 3rd party plugins. You have to troubleshoot your 3rd party stuff in Logic if you wanna find the culprit of the crashes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunted Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 On 2/8/2023 at 6:08 PM, triplets said: Every DAW reacts different to 3rd party plugins. You have to troubleshoot your 3rd party stuff in Logic if you wanna find the culprit of the crashes. Even if all plugins are "successfully validated" via Logic plug-in manager? Should I turn off one by one and check? Thanks for the reply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Validation means it passes tests for the published spec by Apple. It says nothing about how crashy or buggy a plugin may be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozkanozmen Posted February 14, 2023 Author Share Posted February 14, 2023 Yes, some plug ins crash Logic. Antares Autotune, Maschine 2, These plug ins have caused consistently crashes with me. But you know what, I have formatted my mac re-downloaded and re-installed logic. I do not have the same issues any more, at least not so far. If you decide to format, make sure to re download logic. Saving instruments on an external hard drive causes its own issues later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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