MikeShapiro Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Does 10.7.5 require Ventura? Apple's official documentation says no, but the App Store app when run on my "trashcan" Mac Pro says yes. I'm curious what happens if I update on my much newer MacBookPro and copy the app over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, fisherking said: the way it now is for all apple apps (and undoubtedly, eventually... everything). mail, pages, etc etc all show 'settings'; i expect the next final cut update will do that as well, Yep, I know - I'm aware of these things. And I did indeed check last week's Ventura-related FCP update, and was actually surprised it still said Preferences... 7 minutes ago, MikeShapiro said: Does 10.7.5 require Ventura? No, as previously mentioned in the thread (and on the App Store), 10.7.5 requires Monterey 12.3... Edited November 2, 2022 by des99 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 this is really annoying: all my custom templates lost the 'key signature / project end' info in the control bar. i added it back, resaved the templates... and it's still not there when i reopen the template. (i did reboot). anyone else seeing this? will report on the beta feedback app (where it might be seen), and the logic feedback page (aka 'the circular file')... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guavadude Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Recently I’ve had “Mike” respond to two of my Logic feedback submissions. So someone’s getting them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 54 minutes ago, fisherking said: all my custom templates lost the 'key signature / project end' info in the control bar. i added it back, resaved the templates... and it's still not there when i reopen the template. I believe when opening a template, your user default setting for the control bar is used, so try resaving the defaults for control bar ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 minute ago, JakobP said: I believe when opening a template, your user default setting for the control bar is used, so try resaving the defaults for control bar ? did that, and it did not fix it. are you experiencing this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Just now, fisherking said: did that, and it did not fix it. are you experiencing this? No, was just thinking it could be related to changes made to the CB, e.g. the new record button... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, JakobP said: No, was just thinking it could be related to changes made to the CB, e.g. the new record button... if it's not happening to you... will investigate further. it's on my main 2 templates. will try creating a new template, see if that works. hopefully i can figure something out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, fisherking said: if it's not happening to you... will investigate further. it's on my main 2 templates. will try creating a new template, see if that works. hopefully i can figure something out. Oops, feel I'm misleading you here, I'm still on 10.5.1... Sorry for that ! 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) i just made a NEW template, and the display shows. so it's only in my previously-made templates. ugh. i tried duping one of my templates, and using that, but that display is still not there. i made the control bar settings i want 'as default', set that, saved the template... and it's STILL not showing. anyone else? and anyone have any suggestions? thanx! EDIT: i imported EVERYTHING from one of my templates into a completely blank one, saved that... and am getting the 'key sig/project end' showing again. annoying, but fixed. i have to reselect that parameter to show every time i open a pre-10.7.5 project. still, not a life&death issue... 🙃 Edited November 2, 2022 by fisherking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundergufs Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 I'm just quickly in to express HOLY F***KING s#!+ NESTED STACKS!!!!! YIPE KAY YE!!! mfritze and Mike Audio and the rest of the team, you did it!!!!!! WELL DONE GUYS actually looks like i'll be using Logic until I die. soooo happy i stayed with this app while for a decade now others had better nesting but not as good editing. the editing and composing in LP is unsurpassable, now you have the routing too, mixing just levelled up immensely, clap clap clappetyf**kingclap. christmas early this year. this is Logic 11 for me!! soooo happy!!! 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgman Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) The only problem I had with this new version so far, is that it's the first time that I have ever seen a wiped plugin cache other than an OS upgrade. It all re-validates (aside from Waves issues) but seems kinda weird how overwriting the Logic app with the update would do that. Edited November 2, 2022 by xgman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guavadude Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) I didn't get that. It just installed and woke right up. I haven't had the cache reset at all with any of the Monterey .x updates either. Edited November 2, 2022 by guavadude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 the audio cache here also re-validated; seems to happen with some logic updates. final cut does that with every update... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Mine was fine, it didn't invalidate my plugin cache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 4 hours ago, guavadude said: Recently I’ve had “Mike” respond to two of my Logic feedback submissions. So someone’s getting them. Definitely, they ARE reading them (I have to confess I'm not sure who "Mike" is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, David Nahmani said: Definitely, they ARE reading them (I have to confess I'm not sure who "Mike" is). Over the years I have received a response from someone named “mike” about 10% of the time I submitted bug reports. I think it’s a fictitious name used to respond, and not all the time; it’s usually when they are asking for more info such as a test project Edited November 2, 2022 by Dewdman42 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deif Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 I’ve also had Mike Audio ask for test projects and then go completely silent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnchristp Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) I must say, I like the nested folder-idea, but it doesn't work that well for me. First thing: It's only two levels deep, right? Don't get why it isn't possible to nest even deeper. Also, when I'm inside a folder and create sends they sometimes mess the routing up, especially when I „create track" for that send. Suddenly there's a folder of the send with tracks inside. It'a annoying. For now I keep my old way: using old school busses for anything routingwise and use folders just for collecting audio, like two or more signals of the same source. That does work. Nothing too bad, Logic is a great DAW for the most part and works very efficient. But there are some rough edges, still. Like surround mixing. Like: panning. I/O naming. My biggest wish lately would be a batch export function for making stems. It's annoying and inefficient to do everything manually. And an easier way to bounce external MIDI-Instruments. So, waiting for the next one, while making some music… Cheers Jan Edited November 2, 2022 by jnchristp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, jnchristp said: I must say, I like the nested folder-idea, but it doesn't work that well for me. First thing: It's only two levels deep, right? Don't get why it isn't possible to nest even deeper. Also, when I'm inside a folder and create sends they sometimes mess the routing up, especially when I „create track" for that send. Suddenly there's a folder of the send with tracks inside. It'a annoying. For now I keep my old way: using old school busses for anything routingwise and use folders just for collecting audio, like two or more signals of the same source. That does work. Nothing too bad, Logic is a great DAW for the most part and works very efficient. But there are some rough edges, still. Like surround mixing. Like: panning. I/O naming. My biggest wish lately would be a batch export function for making stems. It's annoying and inefficient to do everything manually. And an easier way to bounce external MIDI-Instruments. So, waiting for the next one, while making some music… Cheers Jan this all works well (so far) with summing stacks (i have to admit, i've never used folder stacks)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattrixx Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 5 hours ago, fisherking said: i just made a NEW template, and the display shows. so it's only in my previously-made templates. ugh. i tried duping one of my templates, and using that, but that display is still not there. i made the control bar settings i want 'as default', set that, saved the template... and it's STILL not showing. anyone else? and anyone have any suggestions? thanx! EDIT: i imported EVERYTHING from one of my templates into a completely blank one, saved that... and am getting the 'key sig/project end' showing again. annoying, but fixed. i have to reselect that parameter to show every time i open a pre-10.7.5 project. still, not a life&death issue... 🙃 This happened with my templates too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daveporter33765 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Apple needs to be commended for this update. It provides a large number of bug fixes and welcome new features to boot! I wish more DAW developers would concentrate on bug fixes like this! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 fwiw, my projects open reaalllly fast... (on my intel imac); impressive. also, the grid in the main window seems... darker? and more detailed? anyone else seeing that? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just20 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) What a nice update😀 Finally listening to samples in the Logic library without listening to samples that I can't hear and play. To be honest, it drove me so crazy that I decided to use Finder. Edited November 2, 2022 by just20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) One new feature I heard about that video s very cool is they finally updated the new track with next midi channel so that when you get to channel 16, doing next channel will increment the port number and rotate back to channel 1. This now makes it very straightforward to create super large AU3 templates for vepro. I haven’t tested this yet I just heard about it. I wonder if they also fixed the problem where too many multi timbral tracks blows up the environment? I’ll test it tonight Edited November 3, 2022 by Dewdman42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundergufs Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 12 hours ago, dundergufs said: I'm just quickly in to express HOLY F***KING s#!+ NESTED STACKS!!!!! YIPE KAY YE!!! mfritze and Mike Audio and the rest of the team, you did it!!!!!! WELL DONE GUYS actually looks like i'll be using Logic until I die. soooo happy i stayed with this app while for a decade now others had better nesting but not as good editing. the editing and composing in LP is unsurpassable, now you have the routing too, mixing just levelled up immensely, clap clap clappetyf**kingclap. christmas early this year. this is Logic 11 for me!! soooo happy!!! Glumly retracting my enthusiasm after actually trying it. Only two levels of nested stacks? Eehhhhh Okay, two is better than one, but, really, this is just that workaround hack for stacking we found ages ago made "official"! This was a low hanging fruit, devs 😉 Hello old friend the feedback form, it's me again. 10 hours ago, Dewdman42 said: Over the years I have received a response from someone named “mike” about 10% of the time I submitted bug reports. I think it’s a fictitious name used to respond, and not all the time; it’s usually when they are asking for more info such as a test project Same here, I've always assumed it's a pseudonym with a mild pun ("mike", audio, feedback..?) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dewdman42 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Not only that but it used to be possible with a clever hack to create nested tracks...as many levels deep as you want...folders that is..not summing. But this appears to not be hackable anymore. Now it truly is limited to 2 levels deep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjell Inge Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Hello! New guy here. 😀 Am I the only one – or do others also have a problem pasting Channel Strips to multiple tracks? I have voice over projects with hundreds of tracks, where I need to Export All Tracks as single audio files with each track having its own set of more or less identical channel strip settings. Up until 10.7.4 I could copy the settings from one strip, Select All (cmd+A) in the mixer, and use the key command Opt+Cmd+V to paste these settings to all the tracks at once. A real timesaver. In 10.7.5 that seemingly doesn't work anymore on my Mac (MacBook Pro 2021, M1 Max.) Anybody else noticed this? Ideas? Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattrixx Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Kjell Inge said: Hello! New guy here. 😀 Am I the only one – or do others also have a problem pasting Channel Strips to multiple tracks? I have voice over projects with hundreds of tracks, where I need to Export All Tracks as single audio files with each track having its own set of more or less identical channel strip settings. Up until 10.7.4 I could copy the settings from one strip, Select All (cmd+A) in the mixer, and use the key command Opt+Cmd+V to paste these settings to all the tracks at once. A real timesaver. In 10.7.5 that seemingly doesn't work anymore on my Mac (MacBook Pro 2021, M1 Max.) Anybody else noticed this? Ideas? Thanks in advance! Not in front of it right now, but this could be as simple as a Key Command changing name convention or similar. Do a quick search in the Key Command editor to see if it's changed. I have seen this happen previously. Cheers, Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnchristp Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 I found one graphic-bug with "Remove Silence" in the new version. Anyone else is getting this? First capture is the LPX 10.7.5 way of showing that window, the second is LPX 10.7.4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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