Dannyboy Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) I really don't have too much going on in this project and I'm running an M1 so I don't understand why the plugins are being bypassed automatically. It started when the project did take longer than expected to load. I eventually got a little notice about Logic only loading plugins that are needed. It seems to be only the third party plugins that are disabled. One instrument strip has "Bypass all plugins" checked under settings. But that's not the case for other audio strips with plugins disabled. How can I re-enable the plugins? Another note is that some of these plugins are new to me. But, I have had them running! Thanks for your help . Edited December 9, 2022 by Dannyboy Didn't include screenshot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 File - Project Settings - General: uncheck only load plugins needed for project playback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Dannyboy said: It seems to be only the third party plugins that are disabled. It's a feature to speed up loading large projects/templates - only plugins actually *used* and needed for playback are loaded, the rest can be loaded on demand. Triplets has the project setting to change this behaviour above, if you want to go back to the old behaviour of always loading all plugins used in a project. Edited December 9, 2022 by des99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 Hey! Thanks. Changing the project settings didn't resolve the issue. The plugins aren't needed for playback but it certainly doesn't sound the way I want the tracks to without them? If they can be re-enabled on demand, how can I do this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) It tells you exactly how in the dialog box screenshot you posted above. Select a track with disabled plugins or open a plugin, and those will be loaded. You'll need to change the project settings, save the project, quit Logic, and reload the project to affect the change in loading behaviour. Edited December 9, 2022 by des99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) Ha yes I realize that. I did read that box. But the reason I'm posting is that it doesn't work. Nor does it seem to be the reason the plugins are disabled in the first place. That box only popped up like the 4th or 5th time I opened the project to resolve the issue. Double clicking on a disabled plugin does nothing, nor does selecting the track. Changing the project settings and saving, quitting and reopening Logic also does not resolve the issue. In fact, something odd seems to be happening with Logic in general. It's taking an absurd amount of time to open a project with one Midi piano track... I wonder if it's a bigger issue. Edited December 9, 2022 by Dannyboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, Dannyboy said: In fact, something odd seems to be happening with Logic in general. Restart the computer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 Just now, triplets said: Restart the computer? haha. nope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Dannyboy said: It seems to be only the third party plugins that are disabled. Looks like an issue with 3rd party plugins. Now you have to find the culprit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 Ok, here's some more info. Even the plugin manager is greyed out. I just loaded a third party plugin in a new project and it loaded disabled. Weird right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Did you try trashing Logic preferences? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, triplets said: Did you try trashing Logic preferences? I have not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 @triplets, I've reset preferences. Still no dice. Logic seemed to open as if I had just installed it. Is there a good way to find out what plugin may be causing the problem? I've tried a re-scan of plugins and everything seems to be in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Dannyboy said: Logic seemed to open as if I had just installed it. That's what trashing the preferences does. 12 minutes ago, Dannyboy said: Is there a good way to find out what plugin may be causing the problem? Here's one way: Take out all the plugins out of the components folder in Library/Audio/Plugins/Components. Put them on the desktop. Restart the project. There will be 3rd party plugins missing obviously. See if he project behaves correctly. If it does, put half the plugins back in the Components folder. See how Logic behaves. Get the procedure? You might have to restart the computer for the changes to take effect. Edited December 9, 2022 by triplets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 3 hours ago, triplets said: If it does, put half the plugins back in the Components folder. See how Logic behaves. Get the procedure? Thank you @triplets I started to do this and I'm beginning to think it's the Waves plugins, which are new to me, causing the trouble. I noticed they aren't actually in my component folder...They seem to run differently than the rest of my plugins which I install as components... it seems Waves has some parent "WaveShell" component that directs Logic to a Waves folder created in "Applications" which seems to hold all the plugins I just purchased.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 This was bizarre. When I took the plugins out nothing would play back properly. Lots of noise and artifacts! In the end though, after taking the plugins out, putting them back in incrementally... everything started working again! Thanks again @triplets. I expected to find a problem with one of my plugins but so far things are working! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 42 minutes ago, Dannyboy said: it seems Waves has some parent "WaveShell" component that directs Logic to a Waves folder created in "Applications" which seems to hold all the plugins I just purchased.... Yes, Waves has just one component file. 14 minutes ago, Dannyboy said: I expected to find a problem with one of my plugins but so far things are working! Great! Maybe it was only a fluke. What I like to call Ghost in the Machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy Posted December 11, 2022 Author Share Posted December 11, 2022 On 12/9/2022 at 10:30 PM, triplets said: Great! Maybe it was only a fluke. What I like to call Ghost in the Machine. Ha it certainly seems like it. Had it all working last night, the project overloaded a couple times but not a big deal. I shut my computer down completely and today we're back to where I started -- disabled third party plugins 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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