10.7.6 is available

[ozinga]

Seems like just  a fix for Space Designer.  

[David Nahmani]

Yes that's the only release notes: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203718

 

• Fixes an issue in Space Designer which could cause output to sound different than previous versions.
• Logic Pro no longer hangs when selecting certain presets for Retro Synth.

 

[Dewdman42]

man there was a lot more than that needing fixing

[fisherking]

Just now, Dewdman42 said:

man there was a lot more than that needing fixing

there's always stuff that needs fixing; am grateful that apple rolls out even miminal fixes when they can, rather than us waiting long periods between point updates.

 

[Dewdman42]

great for you but I am unable to use 10.7.5 and from the looks of it will not be able to use 10.7.6 either, critical bugs they introduced in 10.7.5 that need to be fixed.  10.7.5+ is no go for me until they are fixed.  Maybe they should spend less time introducing so many bugs to 10.7.5

 

Edited December 14, 2022 by Dewdman42

[fisherking]

8 minutes ago, Dewdman42 said:

great for you but I am unable to use 10.7.5 and from the looks of it will not be able to use 10.7.6 either, critical bugs they introduced in 10.7.5 that need to be fixed.  10.7.5+ is no go for me until they are fixed.  Maybe they should spend less time introducing so many bugs to 10.7.5

what issue(s) in 10.7.5?

i don't think apple intentionally 'introduces' bugs to logic, but yes, they should be on top of fixing whatever breaks.

[Dewdman42]

1 minute ago, fisherking said:

but yes, they should be on top of fixing whatever breaks.

yes.

 

 

[fisherking]

2 minutes ago, Dewdman42 said:

yes.

and none of us know what's happening behind the scenes; what the logic team is working on, what they're trying to fix, what progress they make (and what obstacles they encounter). but a minor update with any fixes or improvements has value.

what issues are you having in 10.7.5?

[Dewdman42]

I will tell you after I have a chance to test out 10.7.6 to see if they fixed things without mentioning it.

[fisherking]

2 minutes ago, Dewdman42 said:

I will tell you after I have a chance to test out 10.7.6 to see if they fixed things without mentioning it.

the changelog only shows those 2 fixes. but, fwiw, updating logic to 10.7.6 fixed 2 small issues with my roli lumi keyboard. i would think the update fixed those things unintentionally (the way OS updates sometimes fix random issues with a previous OS version, almost like a jump-start).

let us know how things go!

[polanoid]

1 hour ago, Dewdman42 said:

 Maybe they should spend less time introducing so many bugs to 10.7.5

Which ones were that?

[des99]

25 minutes ago, polanoid said:

Which ones were that?

The main one for me is that 10.7.5 included a specific fix for Soundtoys Effects Rack preset changing (which was buggy, but at least sort of worked in 10.7.4, but needed a fix in Logic to work properly without crashing) - the fix of which actually rendered Effects Rack more or less unusable for me (instant hard crash of *Logic* - not the plugin process - if you even attempt to change a preset in Effects Rack running natively...)

I'll check 10.7.6 later, but without specific mention of changes around this, I'm not confident anything has changed. Even Soundtoys said this was a Logic issue...

Other than that, 10.7.5 has been pretty good here.

Edited December 14, 2022 by des99

[polanoid]

16 minutes ago, des99 said:

Other than that, 10.7.5 has been pretty good here.

*so many* bugs...

[des99]

10 minutes ago, polanoid said:

*so many* bugs...

To clarify - I said *for me* it's been good, but that doesn't mean my experience is the same for @Dewdman42. It was him complaining about critical bugs in 10.7.5 being a no go for him. He hasn't specified what those are. I just mentioned the one fairly critical - but at least avoidable - bug for me that was introduced in 10.7.5, as you were asking about what bugs 10.7.5 brought.

[des99]

1 hour ago, des99 said:

I'll check 10.7.6 later, but without specific mention of changes around this, I'm not confident anything has changed. Even Soundtoys said this was a Logic issue...

And... I've just been switching presets with glee and it's solid, no more hard crash with Effects Rack, which is pleasantly surprising. 👍

(The preset library browser still behaves weird, it don't retain it's place when you select a preset but resets to the top folder each time - a bit annoying, but a small inconvenience only. The library browser started behaving a bit erratically with many plugins somewhere in the 10.7.x cycle, so they obviously changed something.)

[tommasodonofrio]

19 minutes ago, des99 said:

And... I've just been switching presets with glee and it's solid, no more hard crash with Effects Rack, which is pleasantly surprising. 👍

(The preset library browser still behaves weird, it don't retain it's place when you select a preset but resets to the top folder each time - a bit annoying, but a small inconvenience only. The library browser started behaving a bit erratically with many plugins somewhere in the 10.7.x cycle, so they obviously changed something.)

Effect Rack It's working fine for me too.

Especially switching sound design presets doesn't cause logic to crash anymore, i'm really happy because i bought the bundle two weeks ago and i was so annoyed.

[des99]

17 minutes ago, tommasodonofrio said:

Especially switching sound design presets doesn't cause logic to crash anymore

Ah that's good to hear - I'd never found anyone that could confirm the behaviour I got. Good to know it wasn't just me! 😝

My guess is that the previous fix they made in 10.7.5 they botched somehow, and then it got silently fixed in 10.7.6. All good!

[zplane]

I have not had time to read through the entire 10.7.5_is_out thread, so maybe someone already commented about this.  Given 10.7.5 is the first release where Logic allows you to import 32 bit float files w/o converting them, I tested doing a bounce of a 32 bit float file (starting at 1 1 1 1).  No effects, no busses, no DSP, no level changes of any kind.  I then used Wavelab to diff the original and the bounced file.  Just as I had reported for freeze files, Wavelab shows Logic puts low level noise/garbage at the very beginning of a 32 float file.  This time they got back to me and I demonstrated it to the Logic tech over the phone.  What surprised me is they seemed to know about this issue and said the work around is to use cycle mode to designate the audio range to bounce, i.e., in this case the entire file.   I checked this and using the cycle range does fix it (no sample differences).  I would not have guessed to use cycle mode.

[jezzery]

For me 10.7.5 introduced crashing when dragging audio into the track list to make a quick sampler. 
 

Also, a long wait on the splash screen when loading, on the searching plug-ins. Really hope this sorts it. 

[polanoid]

1 minute ago, jezzery said:

For me 10.7.5 introduced crashing when dragging audio into the track list to make a quick sampler. 
 

Not reproducible here. Can you describe exactly what you're doing (maybe even post an example audio file)?

[tommasodonofrio]

On 12/14/2022 at 11:36 PM, des99 said:

Ah that's good to hear - I'd never found anyone that could confirm the behaviour I got. Good to know it wasn't just me! 😝

My guess is that the previous fix they made in 10.7.5 they botched somehow, and then it got silently fixed in 10.7.6. All good!

I'm sorry but i have to tell you that that the problem is still here, it doesn't happen all the time but it hasn't been fixed.

:(((

[des99]

54 minutes ago, tommasodonofrio said:

I'm sorry but i have to tell you that that the problem is still here, it doesn't happen all the time but it hasn't been fixed.

Previously for me, selecting any preset would instantly hard crash Logic immediately.

I just switched about 50-80 Effect Rack presets via a variety of methods, and it worked fine, no crashes.

Even if the issue is still there, this is at a level that's much more practical to work with - at least at this stage. If the bug is more intermittent, maybe those crashes will come back at some point - Soundtoys said they couldn't reproduce this at their end with 10.7.5, so clearly the issue wasn't as obviously immediate for everyone. We'll see how it goes I guess...

[conanthewarrior]

I have upgraded to 10.7.6, and am glad the deep sigh bug from retrosynth is gone. That one really messed up one of my projects, luckily I could load an older save to save the project from death. 

 

[fonkeek]

Hi, I have 10.7.6 and I can't fix the Playhead issue, it's jumping backward every time I press play. I've been looking at different forums and I still couldn't fix the problem for the last 45min. Doesn't seem very fair doesn't it? "lol"

[polanoid]

2 hours ago, fonkeek said:

Hi, I have 10.7.6 and I can't fix the Playhead issue, it's jumping backward every time I press play. I've been looking at different forums and I still couldn't fix the problem for the last 45min. Doesn't seem very fair doesn't it? "lol"

Do you have "Play from last locate position" switched on for the play button?

[fonkeek]

Hi, I tried to play with all on/off features on the play button, and I still have the same issue. 

[polanoid]

22 minutes ago, fonkeek said:

Hi, I tried to play with all on/off features on the play button, and I still have the same issue. 

can you provide a screenshot video showing that?

[fonkeek]

[polanoid]

That looks very much like you have a latency inducing plug-in (Adaptive Limiter?) somewhere in your audio channel strips. Could you post a screenshot of your Mixer as well?

[fonkeek]

Thanks for your help.