deckard1 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 I just got an Eventide Micropitch pedal. If the pedal is going into my amp's effects loop and then my amp is going into Logic via my audio interface, I would have to use two inputs on my audio interface for the output to be stereo in Logic? Just wondering if it's possible the pedal could send a stereo signal into Logic using just one cable coming from the amp? Thanks. https://www.eventideaudio.com/pedals/micropitch/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 (edited) Yes, stereo is two channels of audio, and therefore requires two inputs on your audio interface. I assume your amp is stereo, rather than a regular mono guitar amp, as otherwise, you'd be in mono anyway, and could just stick to mono recording. Edited January 8, 2023 by des99 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, des99 said: Yes, stereo is two channels of audio, and therefore requires two inputs on your audio interface. Not possible to have two channels of audio using one input? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, deckard1 said: Not possible to have two channels of audio using one input? One input is a single, mono channel. Stereo requires two channels, by definition. I don't know what audio interface you have, or what inputs it has (for example, an SP/DIF input carries two channels, on one cable), but check your manual for it to see what inputs it has. It's unlikely your audio interface has a single cable stereo input, unless it's on a little minijack (like an iPod headphones jack). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 7 hours ago, deckard1 said: my amp is going into Logic via my audio interface What amp is it, and how is it connected to your audio interface? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 9 minutes ago, David Nahmani said: What amp is it, and how is it connected to your audio interface? Amp is a Victory V4 Sheriff hybrid amp and my audio interface is a first generation Apogee Jam. The Jam just has one Hi-Z input. https://www.victoryamps.com/product/v4-the-sheriff-guitar-amp/ https://apogeedigital.com/products/jam Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Ok so a single input means you're doing a mono recording, but as long as you are recording on a track that has a mono input (for example Input 1) in Logic, and is routed to the Stereo Out, then you should hear the recording in both speakers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, David Nahmani said: Ok so a single input means you're doing a mono recording, but as long as you are recording on a track that has a mono input (for example Input 1) in Logic, and is routed to the Stereo Out, then you should hear the recording in both speakers. Thanks! Will the detune effect from the Eventide Micropitch pedal I am using in the effects loop of the amp be in mono or stereo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, deckard1 said: Will the detune effect from the Eventide Micropitch pedal I am using in the effects loop of the amp be in mono or stereo? It will be in mono because you're recording a mono signal into Logic Pro (only one channel). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, David Nahmani said: It will be in mono because you're recording a mono signal into Logic Pro (only one channel). Thanks. What's confusing me though is the mono/stereo switch on the back of the pedal. For example, what if I set the switch on the back of the pedal to stereo and then just have one cable coming out of the pedal...not two? Still mono? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution David Nahmani Posted January 8, 2023 Solution Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, deckard1 said: what if I set the switch on the back of the pedal to stereo and then just have one cable coming out of the pedal...not two? Still mono? Yes, that's correct, it would still be mono. You need to channels (one for the left and one for the right) in order to get a stereo signal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 4 minutes ago, David Nahmani said: Yes, that's correct, it would still be mono. You need to channels (one for the left and one for the right) in order to get a stereo signal. Thanks, David. So the detune wouldn't work then since it's a stereo effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 5 minutes ago, deckard1 said: So the detune wouldn't work then since it's a stereo effect? It would still work, but in mono. The effect can actually be either mono or stereo, depending on the number of outputs you use. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 Just now, David Nahmani said: It would still work, but in mono. The effect can actually be either mono or stereo, depending on the number of outputs you use. But the detune effect is split I thought. Needs stereo, in other words? For example, 9 cents to the left and 9 cents to the right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, deckard1 said: For example, 9 cents to the left and 9 cents to the right. Yes, in stereo. In mono, they'll just be mixed together, so you'll still get a detune effect, just all in the centre without the stereo spread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted January 8, 2023 Author Share Posted January 8, 2023 Ahh...makes sense now! Returning pedal. 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 There is a plugin version of this, BTW, which can be had in sales quite inexpensively. (I got mine for about $15). In stereo. 🙂 https://www.eventideaudio.com/plug-ins/micropitch/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 8, 2023 Share Posted January 8, 2023 1 minute ago, des99 said: There is a plugin version of this, BTW, which can be had in sales quite inexpensively. (I got mine for about $15). In stereo. 🙂 https://www.eventideaudio.com/plug-ins/micropitch/ I was thinking of the plug-in too but didn't mention it because I thought that maybe @deckard1 preferred the sound of the detuned clean guitar going into the amp. If you're going to use a plug-in for this, you could also use Logic's Pitch Shifter in dual mono mode. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) Thanks! I actually have the Eventide Micropitch plugin. Thought the pedal would sound better than the plugin for some reason. I was going to A/B Eventide's Micropitch plugin with Logic's Pitch Shifter plugin and see if one is better than the other. Just curious as I've never used Logic's Pitch Shifter plugin before. Edited January 9, 2023 by deckard1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 hours ago, deckard1 said: I was going to A/B Eventide's Micropitch plugin with Logic's Pitch Shifter plugin and see if one is better than the other. Just curious as I've never used Logic's Pitch Shifter plugin before. Great idea to A/B them if you own both. If you can please let us know what you find out, I'd be curious to hear your thoughts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 15 hours ago, David Nahmani said: Great idea to A/B them if you own both. If you can please let us know what you find out, I'd be curious to hear your thoughts. Sounds good. Will definitely report back after I A/B them. Thanks also for the suggestion of using dual mono. Very cool feature in Logic. I've always just used stereo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 10, 2023 Share Posted January 10, 2023 You're welcome. You'll have to use a bit of trickery in order to insert the dual mono plug-in on a mono track though: first Command-click an Audio FX insert and insert Utility > Gain > Mono → Stereo, then you can insert a dual mono plug-in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted January 10, 2023 Author Share Posted January 10, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, David Nahmani said: You're welcome. You'll have to use a bit of trickery in order to insert the dual mono plug-in on a mono track though: first Command-click an Audio FX insert and insert Utility > Gain > Mono → Stereo, then you can insert a dual mono plug-in. Same thing, or result, as sending to a stereo aux channel and choosing dual mono for the chosen effect? Edited January 10, 2023 by deckard1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted January 11, 2023 Share Posted January 11, 2023 14 hours ago, deckard1 said: Same thing, or result, as sending to a stereo aux channel and choosing dual mono for the chosen effect? No, you would have to output to the aux, with a send you would split the signal into two parallel signal routes... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 On 1/10/2023 at 1:52 AM, David Nahmani said: You're welcome. You'll have to use a bit of trickery in order to insert the dual mono plug-in on a mono track though: first Command-click an Audio FX insert and insert Utility > Gain > Mono → Stereo, then you can insert a dual mono plug-in. Thanks, David. How is 'Command-click' different than just 'click' for an Audio FX-insert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 It enables you to force-insert plugin types that have a different format than the current channel format (eg, inserting a mono plugin into a stereo channel.) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 Thanks! I never knew that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Actually scratch that, there's no need to Command-click, you can just click to access the Mono → Stereo version of the Gain plug-in! Just click works. And what des99 describes is Option-clicking. I guess I must have crossed my Command-Option-Control-Shift wires when I wrote that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deckard1 Posted January 13, 2023 Author Share Posted January 13, 2023 21 minutes ago, David Nahmani said: Actually scratch that, there's no need to Command-click, you can just click to access the Mono → Stereo version of the Gain plug-in! Just click works. And what des99 describes is Option-clicking. I guess I must have crossed my Command-Option-Control-Shift wires when I wrote that. Yes, I was getting the same result Command clicking versus just clicking. Hence the minor confusion on my end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
des99 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 48 minutes ago, David Nahmani said: And what des99 describes is Option-clicking. I guess I must have crossed my Command-Option-Control-Shift wires when I wrote that. Yep, I wasn't at my computer but I was sort of thinking "hmm, is that *command* to force-insert, seems to not feel right", but hey, we got there in the end... 🙂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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