Little Fat Bloke Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Probably an old one this, but I'll ask anyway. What is the general opinion of Appple's Mac Studio now that it's been around for a while? The reason I ask is that I'm currently running a 2021 iMac M1 with 16gb, but to be truthful I have had nothing but problems with it since I bought it last year. Logic suddenly crashes for no apparent reason, it's shakes something awful on the screen, literally: you cannot do any detailed editing because the screen is all over the place...it's been a complete nightmare from start to finish. I've contacted Apple UK for help and they have set up some kind of screen share device where they can see your screen themselves and guide you along the way. But the problems still continue. I don't know a great deal about the Studio Mac (other than that it's brain-crushingly expensive, even by Apple's standards), but if it does the job surely it has to be better than suffering like I have? If anyone has the Studio Mac or knows a bit about it, what are your experiences, please? Good or bad, whatever. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonshu Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 (edited) What are your Logic projects typically like? More on the lots of audio tracks with lots of plugins side? Or do you have tons of Kontakt sampler with huge modern orchestral libraries? Edited January 28 by wonshu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Fat Bloke Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 1 hour ago, wonshu said: What are your Logic projects typically like? More on the lots of audio tracks with lots of plugins side? Or do you have tons of Kontakt sampler with huge modern orchestral libraries? Extremely minimal. Very much so. I'm only interested in the songwriting side of things so sparse demos are the thing for me. At best I might have maybe 6 - 7 tracks (audio and midi) and the odd plugin (comp, delay for vocals etc) but that's pretty much it. Anything more and sure as night follows day I get the overloading message followed by the beachball, and then the inevitable crash. I'm only really dipping my toes into computers and Logic now because of retirement and I've always wanted to write and record my own songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonshu Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Then unfortunately it sounds to me like there really is a hardware problem with your system. That M1 with 16GB of RAM should handle those kinds of projects without any hiccup. I'd try to bring it into an Apple Store if you can and have them look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Fat Bloke Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 That's what I thought. I was thinking about selling it but I would not want the next owner to go through what I have gone through. Thanks anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 5 hours ago, Little Fat Bloke said: I've contacted Apple UK for help and they have set up some kind of screen share device where they can see your screen themselves and guide you along the way. What did they say? I guess they saw the symptoms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonshu Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Sometimes if you go there in person you may get lucky! It happened to me... well... I actually sent my wife and she did a little acting there... 🙂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Fat Bloke Posted January 28 Author Share Posted January 28 49 minutes ago, triplets said: What did they say? I guess they saw the symptoms? Yes, they used that system where they can see your screen and manipulate things as if they are using your own mouse. It baffled their experts too. It is also the constant hassle: you have to contact Apple UK first and arrange a time for them to call you. The signal where I live is not great so the calls were missed lots of times. I think they call from Ireland somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 22 minutes ago, Little Fat Bloke said: It baffled their experts too. What solution did they offer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 I can think of two ways to react to this issue. Take the easy way out. Sell your iMac and get a Mac mini. You dont need a Mac Studio. Save your hard earned $$. Get a decent Mac mini, a good screen, a keyboard and your favorite trackpad (or mouse) and move on. Try to reinstall everything. Start with the newest macOS version your Mac will support, then the newest version of Logic Pro it will run. Don't install anything 3rd party at first, see how that works first. If that doesn't, ask Apple for help, insisting that it's a brand new macOS install with a brand new Logic install. Should just work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Fat Bloke Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 One of the reasons I was going for the more powerful option is because I shall also be running FCPX as well as Logic. 16 hours ago, triplets said: What solution did they offer? Same as usual, try a re-boot and reinstall Logic, or if not take it back to the shop. I can't return it because it was bought off eBay and the lady I bought it from has gone abroad apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 2 minutes ago, Little Fat Bloke said: One of the reasons I was going for the more powerful option is because I shall also be running FCPX as well as Logic. Makes sense. Then solution #1 or if you really need a more powerful machine, the Mac Studio makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Fat Bloke Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 1 hour ago, David Nahmani said: Makes sense. Then solution #1 or if you really need a more powerful machine, the Mac Studio makes sense. I shall probably just have to accept that the Mac I bought is a bit suspect in some areas, but then when you buy on eBay it's all about trust. Thanks for your replies everyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Isn't there a apple hardware test you can do just to make sure the machine is not faulty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Fat Bloke Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 40 minutes ago, triplets said: Isn't there a apple hardware test you can do just to make sure the machine is not faulty? Diagnostic tests? Yes. Apple Support (UK) did it with me just before Xmas (I think) and it was fine. But within a day or so the problems resurfaced. But to be truthful, I didn't want to keep contacting support because since I bought the Mac and these issues started Apple have gone out of their way to help me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Are you running the latest OS and Logic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Fat Bloke Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 Yes. Updated OS last week and Logic Pro (10.7.7.) last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 So does this weird behavior happen with any project or just certain ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Little Fat Bloke Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 Yes. It's not just Logic, pretty much any app suffers. I think I notice it more in Logic because I use that more than any other, but it affects everything and anything in a negative way. I'm going to dismantle the whole set-up, leave it in permanent-storage and just put the whole thing down to sheer bad luck. Somebody somewhere will know what the issue is and maybe one day it will function correctly and be a great system for them, who knows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplets Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Dang, they sold you a dud? That sucks big time! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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