ADLondon Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Hey all, More fun and games ( I could do without). So for those following my other issues, here's another one for you. When I re-load sampler instruments, it sometimes names it as one thing ON THE SAMPLER but is playing something totally different... Also, sometimes it renames it on the TRACK header too! (See screenshots attached) Also, Kontakt instruments have just stopped playing ANYTHING. Nada, silence. On opening up each Kontakt instrument, I can see why... No instrument is showing as having been allocated! (and before you ask, YES... they were there. I opened a much earlier saved version and all is as it should be, so whilst I can't use that version because I've made lots of changes since, I can go through and check each track (which including all the vocal layers and orchestral layers are over 100) and copy/paste the settings. (I am not sure I trust the audio tracks to be set as they should be, so will need to check those too...) As some of you know, I've had some SSD drive issues... wondering could this be part of how the drive may have corrupted some of the project files? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enossified Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Are they the wrong sounds or just the wrong names? The name you see in the instrument itself is seldom the name used for the channel strip, which includes the instrument plus effects, sends, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADLondon Posted February 6 Author Share Posted February 6 4 minutes ago, enossified said: Are they the wrong sounds or just the wrong names? The name you see in the instrument itself is seldom the name used for the channel strip, which includes the instrument plus effects, sends, etc. Both, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherking Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 i always hide the logic bar when i open a plugin; it shows the wrong preset name often, it's useless... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Nahmani Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 You are describing different issues that are not related. For efficient troubleshooting, I suggest you start one topic for one specific issue, and give us one single example of a patch or instrument which we can reproduce to try to make sense of it. In itself, there's nothing surprising about seeing different names in the track header, the patch name and the instrument preset. These are three different things and they are not supposed to be the same thing: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADLondon Posted February 6 Author Share Posted February 6 (edited) 25 minutes ago, David Nahmani said: You are describing different issues that are not related. For efficient troubleshooting, I suggest you start one topic for one specific issue, and give us one single example of a patch or instrument which we can reproduce to try to make sense of it. In itself, there's nothing surprising about seeing different names in the track header, the patch name and the instrument preset. These are three different things and they are not supposed to be the same thing: I know the 3 things don't say the same exact thing but your example shows a Vintage Strat bank playing what is the sound bank it uses when a choosing a Classic Clean kind of sound, which are in the Guitar Patch/Group. This isn't what I am experiencing as if it kept the sound as I selected it and kept the names of the tracks as I had originally named them, I would have no problem. My problems here are: Some sampler sounds most definitely NOT the sound I selected/programmed. To break it down more clearly, it can have: The correct track name, correct sampler name but totally different sound from a totally different selected sample bank (as in my pic 1, where the sound, supposed to be Full String was now sounding as a ukelele) Correct track name, wrong sample name and sound like the wrong sample name (pic 2 Fiddle sounding as a tuba) Correct sample name, CHANGED track name, change sample bank (pic 3 Harp glissando sounding as an oboe) Pic 4 is a similar thing as pic 1, where the track name is correct, but the sampler now showing the wrong bank, but this one is actually not even from the Patch/Group it should be from (pic 4, Chinese chanter now sounding as Orchestral percussion kit, also showing as from a Panpipe group with saxes and flutes. The last part of point 4 isn't my main concern. It can come from whatever Patch/Group it likes, even if it's a bit misleading (saxes and flutes for a Chinese chanter??) It's the swapping sounds and names from how I programmed it that I can't cope with and wastes more time again as I have to go through it all and copy/paste channel strip settings from older arrangement saves, when it was still looking and sounding correct. If by 2 separate issue, you also mean the Kontakt part missing its sounds, I can take that to a separate thread, however, I can't hep feel it's related as they both refer in part at least, to software instruments losing their referenced sounds. If the separate issue was the SSD drive and asking if all this sound bank swapping might be related to the drive issues, I can also take that to a separate thread if you prefer...I just thought it all might be the one cause... Edited February 6 by ADLondon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADLondon Posted February 6 Author Share Posted February 6 Oh... here's a good one... There's a No. 5 in the list of permutations: 5. Correct Sampler Patch, correct channel strip name, correct library Patch/Group and correct region name (thankfully, I think that part is consistent) but then WRONG/CHANGED track name and WRONG sound!! See pic below, programmed as a Timp Crescendo, sounding as a Turkish Zither! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enossified Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 This is more up David's alley than mine, but it appears that links to files in the sound library have been corrupted. For your examples of the ukelele and the panpipes I get the correct sound, both the channel strip name and the name of the sound in Sampler look correct to me. I don't find FIDDLE DBLBW or OBOES #M when I search, what libraries are those from...Kontakt? If this was working in the past, what sort of changes have you made recently (new conputer, OS, Logic version, library relocation, etc.)? Do you have any backups of your computer from when it was working? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADLondon Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 2 minutes ago, enossified said: This is more up David's alley than mine, but it appears that links to files in the sound library have been corrupted. For your examples of the ukelele and the panpipes I get the correct sound, both the channel strip name and the name of the sound in Sampler look correct to me. I don't find FIDDLE DBLBW or OBOES #M when I search, what libraries are those from...Kontakt? If this was working in the past, what sort of changes have you made recently (new conputer, OS, Logic version, library relocation, etc.)? Do you have any backups of your computer from when it was working? Hi. Well that wouldn't surprise me, as I said, my SSD drive that I have been storing all my projects AND the samples appears to have been faulty and project files have been corrupting, so it stands to reason that either the samples have become corrupted (though thy do still work when you click on them directly) or the drive has been losing the ability to function and locate them properly! Which I must say, I am more and more thinking has been the cause of MANY issues I've been having since switching over to the Mac mini and this drive. The sounds are correct to me too when I program them (probably should've mentioned that, sorry) but they change (sometimes - all my issues have been intermittent) on reopening them. I do use my own libraries of sounds/banks as well as the Logic ones. FIDDLE DBLBW and OBOES are from those. It has been an intermittent issue occurring on and off ever since I bought the Mac mini and this SSD Drive in Aug 21, but I have just been told that the drive is faulty (only took about 18 months to be told this) and so I am wondering if this and many other issues I've been posting about have been due to this fact!! I have upgrade Logic and the OS fairly recently (as recommended to do so by tech heads) and some issues like this and others seemed to get worse. Thankfully I DO have backups (Time Machine) copies, though some of those project files have saved with the incorrect information too, and some have become corrupted and won't open, so I've been doing a series of bulk copying projects, audio files, samples and everything onto another drive and patching up bit by bit from older saves in order to continue to work till I get a replacement SSD Drive. I'm HOPING this will sort out a lot of the problems. More praying really!! 🙏🏼 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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