Dashii Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Hi guys I'm experiencing quite a head-scratcher with Logic. As far as I know, the link button in the upper right corner of the instrument windows allows you to keep said window always focused every time I select a track, so if for example, I have an Alchemy patch loaded on track n. 1 every time I select this track the instrument window will open by itself if the link button is purple (active). Now I'm using two external devices with the purpose of smoothing my workflow: a Monogram CC and an Icon Platform M+. I use the latter mainly as a DAW controller, since having motorized faders makes my Logic experience something on another level. Even though I use the Monogram mainly for controlling MIDI signals, I've assigned one of its physical buttons to the "Open/close Instrument Plug-in Window on Focused Track" to be able to see the instrument window whenever I want and hide it when not necessary (basically something similar to what the key command "V" does). So far so good, but recently I don't know why every time I touch a fader on the Icon Platform M+ (where the function "touching faders select track" is active) the track is selected as if I clicked on it with the mouse, but it automatically opens at the same time the Instrument window as well, and if I select a different track the same thing happens, slowing down my workflow since I wanted to achieve the exact opposite - having the possibility to select a track just by touching a fader when I want to adjust the volume or keep that track in focus for writing some automation and then, if necessary, open the Instrument window pressing the related button on the Monogram CC. I guess this whole thing has to do with the link button, so I tried to go to the "View" window to check if I could deselect the link button, but it already shows "off". I also tried to deselect the link option by clicking on the button itself, but if I touch the fader the window reappears with the link button active again. So I figured I must have modified some shortcut (maybe a key command) adding it to the signal sent by my Icon Platform M+ when I touch a fader, so when this now happens Logic receives not only a message telling it to focus on a track but also a signal that makes the instrument loaded on it to open. Any suggestion about how I could fix this problem? Thank you Cheers Davide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I wonder if the "Open plug-in window on insertion" Mixer Display setting could alleviate same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashii Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 Nope, I just unchecked the setting and everything works like before...I'm afraid it has to do more with some command I associated by mistake to the Icon Platform. I did something similar before causing an internal conflict because I associated the same command both to the Icon and the Monogram, having Logic flash every time I changed the CC11. The problem in instances like these is that it is really complicated to figure out what signals are actually being sent to Logic when using an external controller (at least for me) because opening the "controller assignments" window shows a bunch of parameters like "Value change pitch band Ch1 E0 Lo7 Hi7; Touch/Release Note Ch1 G#6 90 68 Lo7" and I find it hard to understand what each one actually does 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 46 minutes ago, Dashii said: because opening the "controller assignments" window shows a bunch of parameters like "Value change pitch band Ch1 E0 Lo7 Hi7; Touch/Release Note Ch1 G#6 90 68 Lo7" Could you post a screenshot of the controller assignments window with that assignment selected ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashii Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 Sure, here you go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 (edited) Can't see anything strange there... The behavior you describe sounds like you're in Instrument mode, select the "Vpots" zone and see what mode is active there ? (A dot will indicate the active mode.) I believe the "default mode" for Vpots is "Pan/Surround", clicking it will make it the active mode... Edited March 2 by JakobP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashii Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 You mean this one? 5 minutes ago, JakobP said: Can't see anything strange there... The behavior you describe sounds like you're in Instrument mode, select the "Vpots" zone and see what mode is active there ? (A dot will indicate the active mode.) I believe the "default mode" for Vpots is "Pan/Surround", clicking it will make it the active mode... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Yes. To be clear, you're saying that when you select a track now, it's instrument gui opens ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashii Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 Just now, JakobP said: Yes. To be clear, you're saying that when you select a track now, it's instrument gui opens ? Exactly, but only if I select a track by touching the related fader on the Icon Platform M+, while when I select the track by clicking on it with the mouse everything works just as usual (it just focuses on a track without opening the instrument gui) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 I see. Is your Monogram also installed as a control surface ? Looking at your screenshot, it seems you have 8 control surfaces installed ? It might be that one of those is set to an instrument mode, causing the behavior you're seeing, but hard to tell from here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashii Posted March 2 Author Share Posted March 2 4 minutes ago, JakobP said: I see. Is your Monogram also installed as a control surface ? Looking at your screenshot, it seems you have 8 control surfaces installed ? It might be that one of those is set to an instrument mode, causing the behavior you're seeing, but hard to tell from here... No, it isn't. My current setup consists of: Arturia Keylab 88 Monogram CC Icon Platform M+ Native Instruments Maschine Mikro Novation Launchpad Mini In the past I had a Novation Launch Control XL which I replaced with the Icon Platform M+. I had a look at every Control Surface tab listed on the Controller Assignments window but it looks like none of them are set to instrument mode though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution JakobP Posted March 2 Solution Share Posted March 2 (edited) It's quite an elaborate setup you have there... If you had it all working previously, I hope you made a copy of your control surface preferences file in case of a crash or other causes to file corruption. If you have a backup maybe you could recover it ? Look for /Users/*your username*/Library/Preferences/com.apple.logic.pro.cs Edited March 2 by JakobP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 In your Control Surface setup window, does the (controllers) icons’ position intentional? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashii Posted March 3 Author Share Posted March 3 21 hours ago, JakobP said: It's quite an elaborate setup you have there... If you had it all working previously, I hope you made a copy of your control surface preferences file in case of a crash or other causes to file corruption. If you have a backup maybe you could recover it ? Look for /Users/*your username*/Library/Preferences/com.apple.logic.pro.cs You're right, my setup is quite an elaborate one but unfortunately, my capability to handle it is not, so I never thought about saving my control surface preferences 😅 But you gave me another idea: maybe I could just erase all custom settings, and start building them up from scratch. I admit it is quite a drastic solution but in the end, I didn't make that many changes in Logic preferences, just added some shortcuts for stuff like Midi messages, mixer recall, and so on. Do you think I could find and erase the file with all my preferences in the directory you mentioned? And by doing so do you think I will cause some problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashii Posted March 3 Author Share Posted March 3 11 hours ago, Atlas007 said: In your Control Surface setup window, does the (controllers) icons’ position intentional? Not entirely. The only thing I paid attention to, and I got there by just moving around the icons, was having the Icon and the Arturia in a position where I could utilize the motorized faders and transport buttons. Do you have any suggestions about how could I place them in order? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakobP Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 40 minutes ago, Dashii said: But you gave me another idea: maybe I could just erase all custom settings, and start building them up from scratch. That's exactly what you're doing if you delete that file... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlas007 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 12 hours ago, Dashii said: Not entirely. The only thing I paid attention to, and I got there by just moving around the icons, was having the Icon and the Arturia in a position where I could utilize the motorized faders and transport buttons. Do you have any suggestions about how could I place them in order? Try placing them one above the other… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dashii Posted March 13 Author Share Posted March 13 Thank you so much, guys. I finally solved my problem. I had to take the most drastic approach, deleting not only the .cs file but the .plist as well. That's because it was a conflict between control surfaces based on some parameter I had changed in the past from the key commands window, and I wasn't able to find out which one (or ones) it was. I know it's a risky way to do things like that but now everything works seamlessly. I also placed all my main control surfaces (I mean the ones on which I utilize transport buttons or faders) one above the other as suggested. Thank you again for your help! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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